There was a comment on another post:
And in response to Wolfie it is the most ‘educated’ upper class that has allowed that to happen!! They are detached from reality.
As always, there are elements of truth to both sides but a hell of a lot not taken into account as well.
What we have here is a micro-version of the nationwide, nay global dispute. Essentially it is the now-overtaken* argument of the Old Right versus the Old Left – in this case, one versus many, which adds weight to Wolfie’s contention about a neo-liberal world.
This turned into an unintended post.
It’s primarily the central concerns of the participants which define political positions. When the focus is Thatcher, the Royals, the upper classes, the rich as being automatic betes noirs, while the feckless underclass is glossed over and not taken to task, along with the new global socialism, then that is pure Old Left.
When the betes noirs are the welfare scroungers, the socialists, the left liberals, the feminists, crony capitalists, politicians, lawyers etc., then that is the Old Right. A characteristic of the Old Right is that they acknowledge they are. A characteristic of the Old Left is that they deny they are, maintaining that they are independent thinkers. The Old Left far more easily take offence.
I illustrated the Old Left the other day when a Lady of the Left came in and admitted that she refused to even read the counter-argument on the gun control, labelling it Rightwing.
The difference between that and the Right is that the Right will at least read the Left’s “arguments” and debunk them angrily, as well as put their own. Bill Whittle is a perfect example. But at least they have read the Old Left arguments.
The Left won’t even read them as they do not fit the Narrative they’re convinced of. The arguments or debunking by the Right are an irritant which get in the way of Progress, as if Progress is a positive.
The Left is also characterized by emotion, misused words and rhetoric which have a sameness wherever they’re found. So, talk of equality and diversity is pure Leftspeak and it hides a multitude of sins perpetrated under its name.
The Left refuses to even consider these sins for a moment – how can it when they represent the good guys, the compassionate [or so they believe of themselves]? The approach is to ignore these sins completely and counterattack or else to disappear and refuse to engage.
In the past few decades, the political divide has changed and has become more focussed on Statist versus freedom loving/small government*. Thus the EU is Statist, wanting an ever more centralized elite-controlled world with the middle-class eliminated along with its bourgeois values and an underclass of plebs below.
The Libertarian, drawn both sides of the old divide, is divided into either those for personal licence or those for smaller government. Personal licence is a subset of the Old Left which does not accept the authority of the aristocrats or bosses.
Someone on the right does not speak of personal licence to do anything one wants but of classical liberalism.
But the essential thing in this is not the royals or the upper class per se – it is the New Elite of the Elevated Yahoo – the bestialized Barossos, Blairs, Sutherlands, Mandelsons, Clarkes, Osbornes, Cleggs, Pelosis, Napolitanos, Sullivans and their limited bovine minds are exemplified in Ed Balls. These are the new Orcs, in Tolkien terms.
The Old Left doesn’t like this new division because they want the mortgage themselves on Freedom, they’re the good people, they’re the freedom lovers and they want the agenda of the old class war, no matter what. Therefore anyone with money is, by definition, someone to be dispossessed and the proceeds given to bureaucratic fatcats and false charity chiefs, council aldermen etc.
Meanwhile, the PC Narrative specifically discriminates against certain groups – the indigenous, the male and the aging are three [we see the latter in the care home and hospital issue of the moment].
Very, very occasionally, a card-carrying member of the Old Left, steeped in the rhetoric of same, wakes up to herself and realizes that what she’s been promoting all these years is a Lie. Amfortas sent the following and it illustrates this point quite clearly. He explains:
A quite pleasant lady pursues a career aiding and abetting a system that ‘tries to make society safe’.
She is a success in her career. She is paid from the taxpayer’s deep pockets. She had a comfortable life. But all that changed when her system went into the desired action to ‘make her safe’.
It is heartening in its goryness to hear her now stand up and tell of just what devastation that ‘system’, the one she and her feminist friends created, did to her and her family.
I am not gloating. I have a profound sympathy for her and indeed for the intent with which she started out so many years ago, idealistically. But the Road to Hell is paved with such ‘good’ intent.
Fed with agitprop from the day she was born, it is not at all surprising that we see her and so many other women declare themselves to be ‘Feminists’, and even when they do not say it so boldly nevertheless support all the destructive evil that feminists have devised for the unwary.
One comment on that vid was:
So the system set up by feminists to empower women in reality dis-empowers them, doesn’t believe them if it doesn’t fit the stereotype subscribed to, infantilizes them by telling them what is good or them, and finally criminalizes their family members to extort money from them to support the system.
Now I’ve never met that commenter, don’t know where he or she comes from but isn’t it uncanny that I can myself write: “the system set up by feminists to empower women in reality dis-empowers them” on this blog, only to go somewhere else in the world and find the same thing written there?
Would a member of the Old Left consider for a moment that this is uncanny, that there just might be something other than James Higham’s ravings in this?
Like Amfortas, I have deep sympathy for this woman who never had a chance – she was steeped in the Narrative from day one and grew up believing more than six impossible things before breakfast. I hear some of the ladies I am close to and whom I ahve great affection for parroting exactly the same rhetoric. One doesn’t want a moment such as this woman experienced for them, one just hopes that somehow they’ll wake up to the evils perpetrated by feminism.
A further divide these days, increasingly so, is between the Christian and Dawkinite, the rationalist who thinks he has it all at his fingertips and can control his own destiny.
So we get this mish-mash of old divisions, new divisions and the religious divide all mixed in. And almost everyone misses the real enemy of this day [and former days but it's repackaged now and decked out in new livery] – Them. If you want a definition of Them, of evil in its everyday working form, it would be someone like the Club of Rome.
If you look at who made up its members and active participants, it ranged from the Black Nobility and elements of the royal houses down to megacapitalists, which has me talking like the Old Left myself.
What Them are after is:
1. A militarized federalist model with central politburo control under mediocre, conformist minds, e.g. Rumpy Pumpy and a bloated underclass of yahoos with no values other than those handed down by the New Elite.
2. Command and control through everything from CCTV to databanks containing ultimately useless information, controlling the economy, the law, education, policing, the armed forces, medicine and so on – all on a socialized model.
3. Abolition of private property, inheritance, patriotism to the nation state, the family and “religion” as defined by Them.
4. A blighted world.
5. Substitution of the mystery religion in the latter stages.
Now, with a Themist versus humanity political divide, elements of the Old Left and Right can join forces, libertarians too who perceive that there is a global push for tyranny versus the last flickering freedom of the common man at stake here – all of these can finally come together because the final political divide is between the monsters above and humanity below.