This series analyses the 2016 presidential campaign with recaps of Alex Jones Show interviews with Larry Nichols, a Clinton insider from Arkansas days, terminally ill with cancer, and Roger Stone, Trump insider and veteran of five presidential campaigns beginning in 1964. See parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 if you missed them.
Nichols co-created the 1994 film The Clinton Chronicles and Stone co-authored The Clintons’ War on Women, published in 2015.
This post covers interviews with Roger Stone and Larry Nichols in late September.
At this point, the first presidential debate was looming. It aired on NBC on Monday, September 26, broadcast from Hofstra University on Long Island. Lester Holt moderated.
A week before the debate, Hillary hadn’t been seen much after her 9/11 ceremony collapse. She made a poorly attended appearance on September 19 at Temple University in Philadelphia, but had no public engagements afterwards until the debate. On September 20, Trump tweeted:
Hillary Clinton is taking the day off again, she needs the rest. Sleep well Hillary – see you at the debate!
Two days later he held a rally in Pennsylvania:
“Where is Hillary today? They say she has been practicing for the debate, some people think she is sleeping” – Trump asks PA crowd
On September 23, Drudge Report laid out the debate rules, which included this:
If presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton slips into a coughing fit or any other medical crisis during Monday’s high-stakes debate, she will have to power through, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned!
Hillary’s campaign team were worried that Trump would tower over her and wanted her to be able to debate standing on a stepstool, but Drudge said:
The request was quickly rejected. The commission is allowing for a custom-made podium, which will accommodate the difference in stature.
Speculation began on who would win the debate. To ensure Hillary would be front and centre, ‘a top aide’ encouraged those in the audience to use social media during and after the debate ‘to help shape the conversation positively’ around her.
That day, Roger Stone spoke with Alex Jones from Manhattan. He talked about the upcoming debate but also touched on two other themes that were taking hold: voter fraud and Russia.
Stone opened the conversation by saying that dead people were on voter rolls in Colorado. (This turned out to be true.)
As for the debate, Stone said that Trump ‘is an instinctual fighter’ who would not be role playing. He would be preparing in his own way, asking advisers questions when necessary:
No one can put words in his mouth. He just doesn’t work that way.
By then, Roger Ailes had left Fox News. He had been in touch with Trump, but Stone said that he had no formal role in the campaign. Stone said Ailes gave Trump the same advice he’d given Ronald Reagan in 1980. Stick to the main themes. Don’t sweat the details. Ultimately:
Trump will win this debate his way.
Stone said that Trump stipulated the first debate would be conducted standing up, with no breaks or commercial interruptions.
Alex Jones asked if Hillary really wore an earpiece at the Commander-in-Chief Forum on September 7. Stone replied in the affirmative:
She just told the FBI she can’t remember anything.
Jones asked about the GOPe. Stone said they were ‘running out of options’. Arch nemesis Ted Cruz had just endorsed Trump and many voters were natural Republicans ‘coming home’. Stone added that he still did not find Cruz trustworthy.
The discussion turned to Hillary’s chances on November 8. Stone, who had been looking at voting irregularities through his StopTheSteal.org, said that voter fraud was less of an issue than vote rigging. He pointed out that Bernie Sanders was a victim of vote rigging.
Although he said:
Forty-five days is an eternity in politics …
he pointed out Trump’s numbers in Pennsylvania, where he had:
an appeal in western Pennsylvania like no Republican has ever had before. It is a union stronghold … but they are now voting for Donald Trump.
Stone was certain that this would negate Philadelphia’s near 100% Democrat vote, which it did, even after recounts.
Stone said Trump was leading in Ohio. This was also big news, because Mitt Romney lost it in 2012 and John McCain in 2008.
Stone later explained that, in the case of vote rigging, the GOP could not ask for an investigation because of the 1982 consent decree with the Democrats.
Bill’s women needed explaining to a new generation, some of whom hadn’t been born. Once again, a ‘bimbo eruption’ — to borrow Bill’s adviser’s expression — was taking place with articles in Big Media. Gennifer Flowers popped up. Would she be at the debate? Stone replied:
This is the genius of Trump. He didn’t say he was inviting her. He was thinking of inviting her.
Jeffrey Epstein‘s ‘paedo plane’ (Stone’s words) was the next subject. Stone said a reporter broke the story in Gawker, then the New York Times picked it up. Allegedly, Epstein had a video of Bill Clinton. Stone said it was difficult to know what was happening on that front.
As for an October surprise, Stone said:
Wikileaks are going to be significant. The debates are going to be significant.
The debate was anti-climactic, given all the expectation that something would go wrong. Trump was great for the first half hour. Watching it, I thought he wanted to drive home his points before viewers switched to Monday Night Football. Afterwards, he was much quieter, appealing to the undecided voter, which seemed to work in Pennsylvania and North Carolina. He continued in that same vein in the next two debates.
Hillary talked about her father (see transcript):
My father was a small-businessman. He worked really hard. He printed drapery fabrics on long tables, where he pulled out those fabrics and he went down with a silkscreen and dumped the paint in and took the squeegee and kept going.
It seemed unremarkable at the time, but Larry Nichols took that apart the following day (see below).
As Hillary had a specially designed podium, members of the public began dissecting it. YouTube videos examined footage. She had special lighting, which studio technicians say is normal for women. It softens their features. Some speculated that Hillary was scripted or was given the topics beforehand. Most intriguing was the grey-haired man who hastily collected items from Hillary’s podium as soon as the debate ended.
Regardless, all the major polls taken afterwards said that Trump won decisively.
Larry Nichols talked to Alex Jones on September 27. He was very concerned about the state of the nation.
The conversation started with the debate. Nichols termed it:
a nothing. Trump was on his game for the first 30 minutes.
He echoed what I wrote above. The 20% who don’t care saw the first half hour before switching to Monday Night Football.
He said that the real Hillary is the one at the Benghazi hearings in early 2013:
She doesn’t care.
Nichols also disagreed with Hillary’s description of her father. Nichols said that Bill Clinton told him that Hugh Rodham and long-standing prominent Democrat politician Dan Rostenkowski ‘took over the Chicago Mob’ (to which I add ‘allegedly’). In other words, he was more than a modest draper.
Nichols was also very disappointed that Trump did not employ any of the strategies and tips he had sent him, saying that the candidate:
should have brought up Bill’s women … and the bimbo eruption.
The subject then turned to the elites, censorship and unrest:
They’re closing in tight.
He said that if Trump were smart, he would rebuff personal attacks on him with attacks on Bill Clinton’s past, including his impeachment. He thought it was essential for Trump to explain the truth to the ‘20%’ of Americans who know nothing about the Clintons. He added that the media focus on Charlotte and other disturbances made everyone forget about Hillary’s past. She was starting with a clean slate.
He pointed out that Hillary had spent a lot of money on advertising. By contrast, Trump had spent practically nothing.
He warned about manipulation from polling firms. In reality, he said, the two candidates were in a dead heat. Pollsters, he said, would not be able to stop the Trump surge, because people know something is wrong. They will want to ‘bet on a winner’.
Nichols lamented that the Millennials were the first generation never to see the United States that older generations grew up in. He said that Americans were not the type of people to kick up a fuss until SHTF. Now they were seeing that ‘something’s not right’.
Charlotte was making the news every day at that time. Hillary wanted to visit the city, but local officials asked her not to. Nichols pointed out the irony of it all. He said blacks did not like her, yet George Soros was in the background fomenting unrest, paying agitators money to protest — only to get them to vote for Hillary. He was disappointed Trump didn’t make an issue out of that at the debate.
He was also concerned about the UN takeover of the Internet on October 1:
We’re in trouble. Deep. They’re gonna take it from us but don’t … be afraid to tell the truth. They’re coming after us — sounds crazy, but they are … Dear God, I don’t know what to say or what to do.
Nichols said this reminded him of the first Christmas gift Bill Clinton ever gave him: ‘Read Mein Kampf‘, he said, handing him a copy. Nichols said he was singularly unimpressed. For all the work he had done and all the risks he had taken that year, he thought a hefty bonus or new car would have been appropriate.
BLM, Nichols said, is based on a lie to use blacks. He was also concerned about the incident in a mall near Seattle around that time, calling it a warning. People must speak up:
Person to person … stay the course.
This censorship business has been a real concern for Alex Jones. Even over Christmas, Nichols was on the air to tell him that TPTB definitely had plans to shut down his programme and his sites. Now that Trump has won, however, surely that would not happen. We have only a few weeks to go before the inauguration. Americans must stay the course.