Saturn? A billion kilometres. Delhi to Islamabad? Just about the same.

I was going to write and comment upon the ‘discovery’ by the Cassini probe of hydrogen molecules on Enceladus, one of the moons of Saturn. This scientist from UCL was almost in raptures at the amazing things which could be discovered once a second and probably third rocket carrying probes capable of drilling through an unknown depth of ice, descending to the floor of a (presumed) ocean, and once again drilling into geothermally active rocks. (Her explanation, not mine). The Cassini probe, launched in 1997, has finally arrived as part of the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) search throughout our own Solar system; at a huge cost, and these results are the first to indicate the possible existence of life in other places besides our own.

As I stated, I was going to write about this Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, and what  a complete and utter waste of time, money and human energy this farrago actually was, and is; but decided instead that what we should really be spending our cash, energy and resources upon is the Search for Intelligent Life on Earth.

I would point towards India, whose proud boast is that India is the largest, most vibrant Democracy on Earth. They talk about the huge and well-run elections, allowing for the peaceful transfer of power in the sub-continental State whose occupants number over one billion-plus. They point towards the fact that the Parties which vie for the votes of the millions, hand over that power after an election with hardly a murmur;  they point towards the huge and burgeoning Digital Economy, of the hundreds of thousands of graduates employed in computer science, engineering and digital technology.

Not so well-publicised, understandably, is the grinding and utter poverty of many millions of the not-so-well-educated, who labour in both rural and urban environments for peanuts, as opposed to the super-uber-luxury lifestyles of the billionaires whose wealth is a direct result of the grinding poverty mentioned earlier. Also virtually never mentioned outside of India is the crushing burden of some 200 million Dalits, or as they are also known, the Untouchables. Judged  to be ‘unclean’ by virtue of their birth, they are routinely discriminated against in every possible manner; and although the practice is illegal, it is so prevalent that no-one even comments upon it.

Also not so well publicised, except when bloodshed occurs, is the well-documented and crushing hold that Hindu India has on the almost wholly Muslim State of Kashmir. Kashmir, occupied with overwhelming and brutal force in the blood-shed which went under the heading ‘Partition’ which cost literally hundreds of thousands of lives when Hindu and Muslim found that they were living on the ‘wrong side’ of a border line imposed by force. The British Imperial forces left India virtually unscathed, with only seven recorded casualties. The resulting religion-based ferocity was worse than anything which had happened before, mainly because no planning had taken place to keep the millions on the move separate from one another. India has fought three wars with Muslim Pakistan, and also fought innumerable smaller conflicts. The only thing which stops these two Powers from commencing another war is the fact that both nations have nuclear weapons, and delivery systems ready and available.
As I stated before, how’s about the Search for Intelligent Life on Earth?

17 comments for “Saturn? A billion kilometres. Delhi to Islamabad? Just about the same.

  1. mona
    April 14, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    There is intelligent life out there, why would it ever come to earth? such a disease infested abyss where all life is (what we term life) uniquely parasitic, certain strains are religions, aristocratic or racial, human life is extremely supportive of micro-parasites. Why did I bother to come? just curious I suppose.

  2. Ed P
    April 14, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    As hydrogen is the most prolific element in the universe, with all of it, unlike every other element, dating back to the Big Bang, whatever Cassini detected was something else. Maybe oxygen, suggesting water, or hydrocarbons suggesting life-forms?
    After humans have gone, which looks increasingly likely due to imminent nuclear war, the next dominant species could be cockroaches. I’ve seen some already which exhibited more intelligent behaviour than certain humanoids.

  3. April 14, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    Needle in a haystack these days.

  4. Richard
    April 15, 2017 at 3:33 am

    Not long until there’s no bees, frogs or elephants left on earth but never mind – let’s look for bacteria on Enceladus!

  5. The Jannie
    April 15, 2017 at 10:00 am

    Yet another “scientist” who seeks – at the taxpayer’s expense – to continue the arrogance that extra-terrestrial life would be life as we understand it. It’s an extension of Star Trek’s vision of extraterrestrials as bipedal humanoids with bad skin conditions.

    • Graham Wood
      April 15, 2017 at 11:36 am

      Yes Jannie agree. There is a whole generation of pseudo scientists who pursue the willow-the-wisp of an unending search for the elusive appearance of “life” – rather like medieval alchemists who spent their lives looking for gold in their metallurgical experiments.

      The truth is a great number of such scientists base their search on
      hoping to prove their cock-eyed evolutionary theories and are therefore desperate in their search for life “out there”
      In reality many of them seem to believe in magic rather than proved empirical scientific principles. As if finding water on a planet was synonymous with finding life itself.
      Their assumptions about life coming from spontaneous generation are ridiculously childish and fantastical as not worth wasting time or thought on.
      Either God is creator or he is not!

      • Errol
        April 15, 2017 at 12:39 pm

        ‘God’ is an invention of man. Other sentient species do not go about extending ancestor worship into great sky man because they’re too ignorant to acept the miracle of their own existence.

        If there is life out there it is likely in a form we cannot understand, let alone communicate with. Heck, if we did meet it chances are it would annhilate us. As a species, we’re backward morons – precisely because we are 700 years behind our evolution because of the fantasy of religion.

        • mona
          April 15, 2017 at 6:30 pm

          Sir, you have a mind as mine, I could not put it better, God bless you. Sorry ignore the last three words.

  6. Hereward Unbowed.
    April 15, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    So sayeth the great bard:

    Swear by my sword
    Never to speak of this that you have heard.

    [Beneath] Swear by his sword.

    Well said, old mole, canst work i’ th’ earth so fast?
    A worthy pioner! Once more remove, good friends.

    O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!

    And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.


    and the more you know, the more you realize how much you are totally ignorant of……………

    But and when man starts blaming God, he’s lost the plot.

    God is in a smile, God is in algebra, the geometry of isosceles triangles, God is in String theory and in the singularity, God is Mathematics, God is the Universe, the plains Indians of NA sensed a spirit in every living and inanimate object, I think that the Aborigines see it through, a similar prism. God is death, yet, the resurrection is in you all.

    The greatest of minds have always been open, to quest is to be nearer to God to deny, denial of the pursuit of knowledge is to deny God.

    Man understood about precession long before we had the tools to prove the mathematics of it, the earth wobbles, just think, thousands of years before pen and pencil, on, the careful studied observations needed to arrive at such a stunning revelation, mankind in various forms had mapped the heavens according and only thanks to the naked eye, what wonder was in these men’s minds? Sitting alone with the stars, why would they, what did they perceive which we cannot.
    Even now, with supercomputers, the fundamentals of the Universe are beyond our ken, even the earth, we know sweet fanny adams about the dynamics and mechanics of it, the odds of finding other life in the Universe are so fantastical to be, well, astronomical. Why don’t we wait for them to find us?

    What can we do to find God?

    The mistake, the trap so many people fall into these days, is to think and by somehow ‘I’ve made it’! On the contrary! here we are, on the precipice of such a calamity, it really bears hard to give it any sort of even fleeting consideration.
    You see, we stopped learning, we stopped innovating, we stopped progressing, we stopped yearning, we got ‘fat’ mentally we went up a blind alley and we lost God, because we thought, we were gods.

    Blame it on ‘dumbing down’, Socialism, Common Purpose, obscene consumerism, blame it on easy credit, blame it on funny money, blame it on economists, the banksters, yes! blame it on the politicians, and blame it on yourself.

    But blaming God? that, is, the sort of argument which is usually confined to the creche or the schoolyard [or Westminster].

    Agnostic, Atheist whatever ye may be. The tenets of Christianity are good, the word is good, what is the difficulty is youselves finding excuses not to strive to be a better person, not to try to find goodness and therein nearer to, God.

    no one ever said it was easy, no one ever forces you to try either, think hard, and think on.

    Finally, Islam is a political doctrine primarily and centred in conquest, in avaricious acquisitiveness where they have no room for Godliness, let alone for a omniscient being.

    • mona
      April 16, 2017 at 8:17 am

      The GOD con, selling a product that does not exist, this is the absurdity of humanity, we are just prime animals.

      • graham wood
        April 17, 2017 at 12:03 pm

        Mona. Nobody is selling you, as an atheist, anything. As I said to a previous poster on this site. God gave you a mind and ability to reason (unavailable in “prime animals) but it is entirely your responsibility to think!

        If you have a reasoned case for your position – try saying what it is.

        • mona
          April 17, 2017 at 7:02 pm

          God gave me a mind, prove it? what is a mind? what is a thought?I rest my case.

  7. Graham Wood
    April 16, 2017 at 9:29 am

    HU. And the resurrection of Jesus Christ? I assume you believe that – perhaps a wrong assumption?

    But was it not the vindication of all his many claims recorded in the New Testament (covenant)?

    “Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification”. Cf John:19:30,31.

    • Hereward Unbowed.
      April 17, 2017 at 8:04 am

      If you read it again, never did I proselytize, I ask questions as you should.

      Simon Heffer, once had it and here I paraphrase, ‘I am an atheist but I quite like religious ceremony, particularly choral music, I find that I rather like being in and living in a Christian nation’ and really would any of us prefer to live elsewhere subject to the religious observances of an alternative to Christianity? Even Israel, India is not safe, in Japan you are always ‘gaigin’, the same in China and the Thais smile and as all Asians veil disdain for non Buddhists behind their eyes, and then, no country in Africa is safe.

      Furthermore, I observe and what I see is: a nation where a vacuum of moral authority has been facilitated and purposefully fashioned. A society undergoing an enforced transmogrification which is wanton, and so thoroughly coarsened it is bestiality in thin disguise.

      I witness a political class who are mental pygmies, I see a population so dumb but devoted to the things of self and a society where, self is the only desired, thought important commodity.

      Show me the shining utopia that man has built and I will show you a house of cards built on foundations of candied sugar glass.

      Ask yourself, reflect on ‘we don’t do God’ but what have ‘we’, ‘they’ put in its place, er…………another God, this one is called Mammon.

      Spend time in reflection, then, tell me there is no meat, no truth in what I see.

  8. Penseivat
    April 16, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    / This planet is stuck in a solar system at the edge of a galactic spiral which is at the arse end of our known universe. As Mona wrote, why would they ever come here? It is like a wealthy American family deciding to visit the UK and ending up in Hartlepool, a place you may come across by accident but never by intent. If they did, what would happen? The Muslims would want them dead because they had never heard of Mo; the CIA would try and change their government to fit in with their warped idea of the American dream; some cretin in Brussels would invite them to join the EUSSR, and Liverpool City Council would tell them how to apply for housing and unemployment benefit. This world should have a warning sign proclaiming the inhabitants are toxic imbeciles.

  9. mona
    April 17, 2017 at 8:11 am

    The only reason I would visit Hartlepool is if I had a date and a promise from that Parveen chick, accompanied with a bucket of anti depressants just in case.

    • Penseivat
      April 17, 2017 at 11:17 am

      I’ve lived there (for a while). You’re going to need more than a bucket!

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