Notlob and UKIP

Think this should more properly be at OoL than at my place:

The conversation at Guido’s went this way:


Good riddance to Bolton, an Establishment plant if ever there was one! Can anybody tell me just ONE of his pronouncements since becoming “leader”.  You’re in the final days, UKIP, there are masses of votes for the taking if you don’t elect a complete fucking clown …AGAIN!!!


Very much a plant. And this talk of suing – loves his party, doesn’t he?


Suing, puzzles me, for what, losing the vote decisively?


Yep, that’s very global establishment doing that sort of thing. Those are Remoaner tactics, people who have only a rudimentary concept of democracy.

What’s even more of concern is that Nigel backed him till the end. Now either Nigel’s judgment is highly suspect or he’s in on it.

We’re in a time now where the disinformation is so thick and layered all round that virtually nothing can be taken as what it purports to be any more – which suits the global establishment right down to the ground.

Further comment

Cato the Elder, a kipper:

OK, well, I’ll try to keep it brief.

I shared the above to convey my impressions.

To conclude : I don’t think there is a future for UKIP, I believe it to be a shambolic, amateur, factional and rudderless entity.

On top of the £200 K costs awarded against it in the defamation action, they spent another – say – £25,000 – in hiring the hall, security etc., so finances are in deficit, and it depends on a few funders, whose support was contingent – according to yesterday – on Bolton going, so not based on firm grounds. What happens when the next leader wants to do something they don’t like?

I do not think it will exist in 18 months time.

Carl Lee:

An entirely measured analysis. I think the question might be whether the Conservative Party can hold itself together over Brexit (you could say the same about Labour) and if a compromise is cut with the EU (as I figure will happen) and the JRM side of the party cuts loose with a more UKIP type agenda – drawing in support from that political arena leaving the neo-liberal globalist wing and the one-nation centre-right moderates to move back closer to the EU. I’m sure many are tempted by such a scenario but are held back by the realities of a FPT electoral system where such a split could make Labour a shoe-in at the next election.

9 comments for “Notlob and UKIP

  1. Mona
    February 18, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    Not too keen on adulterers but this little runt committed it and it might? save UKIP but the damage is severe, try someone from the Welsh UKIP .

    • February 18, 2018 at 12:56 pm

      None of them are adulterers?

      • James Strong
        February 18, 2018 at 1:24 pm

        So, what you’re saying is ‘All Welsh UKIP members are adulterers’ ?
        (hat tip: Cathy Newman.)

        Now, being serious: nothing in Mona’s comment can be taking to mean that there are no adulterers in Welsh UKIP..

    • Smoking Scot
      February 18, 2018 at 3:48 pm

      As long as they’re real ukip people and not the Tory Turned UKIP lot.

  2. Pcar
    February 19, 2018 at 1:17 am

    UKIP’s implosion is horrible to watch.

    At least their MEPs are still speaking out against EU Socialism most days.

    Imho Steven Woolfe would have been a good leader.

    I feel really sorry for Nigel Farage.

    @James Higham

    What’s even more of concern is that Nigel backed him till the end. Now either Nigel’s judgment is highly suspect or he’s in on it.

    It’s called Loyalty and Not Interfering – admirable. Would you prefer Obama style sniping?

    • February 19, 2018 at 1:08 pm

      No, just staying out of it – loyalty to Bolton is counterproductive.

  3. Lord T
    February 19, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    I think UKIP is finished and with the way the Tories are going I look forward to the hard right replacement party that will arise from the ashes of both.

    • February 19, 2018 at 1:08 pm

      Yes, that’s the way it’s looking.

      • woodsy42
        February 20, 2018 at 1:27 am

        Except the transition period between the Tory demise and the new rising will be the era of Corbyn and not much fun.

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