Socialism You Think You Can Sell….

Suzanne Moore’s inner authoritarian comes out to play:

I feel that we must prevent disease where we can, and that vaccination should be compulsory or we will slip backwards.

Yes, you can’t sell socialism to the Great British Public, but surely you can sell socialised medicine!

And if not sell it, then enforce it.

Part of the conversation around parental choice is symptomatic of a wider disease in our society: atomisation. The anti-vax lobby, in their purity, care about their own individual children, not our children in the plural, and not the children of the most marginalised groups, who are the most likely to get ill.

Caring about our own individual children is not some fad; it’s hardwired into us, it’s how the human race survives!

And this being the ‘Guardian’, surely there’s a way to shoehorn the modern day bogeyman of the Left in..?

The anti-vaxers have Donald Trump on their side. What will it take for them to see sense? If you trust that man with your baby’s health, then you will really need more than God and arnica to help you.

Because a ‘Guardian’ journalist must be so tiring

10 comments for “Socialism You Think You Can Sell….

  1. February 26, 2018 at 11:40 am

    I’m in a war with my GP practice right now, refusing to be vaccinated and they want me to sign forms. No, they intruded and laid it on me, they can sort it out.

  2. Mona
    February 26, 2018 at 1:51 pm

    Ask your local poisoner can he insure you for a million pounds if the vaccine harms you, you can insure your car but not the vaccine . where in nature is a baby exposed to measles, mumps and rubella at the same time, only in a syringe or maybe a hospital. The NHS is being ruined by greed and fraud, I cannot catch flu or a cold, get arthritis, heart disease or cancer, erectile dysfunction maybe.

    • Ted Treen
      February 27, 2018 at 3:30 pm

      The name “Mona” is not one which suggests erectile dysfunction is likely.

      I suppose it all depends on whatever you’re identifying as today.

      Perhaps “Mona” is a homophone of “Moaner”, in which case I apologise.

  3. Errol
    February 26, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    It’s not the vaccination that’s really the issue. It’s the ‘this is what we want, you must do it. What you want is irrelevant We know best. Obey.’

    However, kudos must go to them for bringing Donald Trump into a discussion about NHS vaccinations. It really is stretching to breaking point.

  4. February 27, 2018 at 4:07 am

    An unvaccinated kid cannot infect a vaccinated one, shirley? If he can, then the vaccine is useless. If he can’t then what is the problem?

  5. Stonyground
    February 27, 2018 at 8:01 am

    If enough people are vaccinated we get something that is known as ‘herd immunity’ this means that diseases never get a foothold and there are hardly any cases. If enough people fail to get vaccinated outbreaks start to occur, the non vaccinated get the disease and they can pass it on to vaccinated people too. The vaccinated are not usually affected as badly and are more likely to recover.

  6. Mona
    February 27, 2018 at 11:43 am

    You mean Herd mentality,there are few vaccines that are fine, any for Cancer, Heart disease, Diabetes, Dementia, Autism?. Question (the vaccinated are not usually affected as badly and are more likely to recover.) unless you are talking Third World I beg to differ. The Flu Virus mutates at an alarming rate Big Pharma cannot keep up with it. I suggest Anti-Biotics prove micro life is as skilled as humans when it comes to survival. Try reading “Dissolving Illusions, Disease,Vaccines and the forgotten History”. by Suzanne Humphries,MD and Roman Bystrianyk. many thanks.

    • Voice of Reason
      February 27, 2018 at 4:48 pm

      Have you had polio or smallpox recently? How about Measles (the #1 killer of S children in the 1920’s), or Rubella (which made my father blind in one eye), or Mumps (which sterilized so many). When was the last time you heard of a major Pertussis outbreak?

      As for cancer, Gardesil actually works, since that cancer is virally-triggered.

      It’s rather hard to have vaccines against those other things, since they are not usually triggered by micro-organisms, with the exception of those unfortunates like my friend, whose heart was destroyed by a strep infection.

      The only reason that so many are against vaccines is that they have been lied to about their danger, while never having seen the devastating effects of the diseases themselves. Over 100,000 children die annually from Measles alone.

      • Mona
        February 27, 2018 at 7:26 pm

        You missed my point, three in one vaccine is the problem, no child is exposed to MMR at the same time, single vaccines that may not overwhelm a child’s immune system has got to be preferable, people ARE lied to about the danger I know from first hand experience. I did not include third world for obvious reasons.

        • Voice of Reason
          February 28, 2018 at 4:39 pm

          Again, the particular MMR vaccines have been studied. A lot, and over a long time. There are no major adverse effects correlated with their use.

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