17 comments for “A Global Body of United Smokers

  1. The Blocked Dwarf
    April 27, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    It’s been smokers against anti-smokers since they declared war on us smokers-whom they seek constantly to portray as hippleran rats.

  2. Errol
    April 27, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    My downstairs neighbours smoke continually. Even now, in pouring rain they’re outside, huddled in a coat puffing away. This comes in my window and it is disgusting. I’ve asked them to smoke out their front, away from me but they refuse to.

    When a smoker exhales the revolting stuff around me, I cough over them. For some reason, they think this is wrong and they are right. It’s the same as spitting on someone. If I were to chuck a cannister of dog poo out the window somehow I would be in the wrong.

    Smokers, just like anyone else have no right to smoke. They have only the responsibility to not affect others with their choices.

    PS – why, when going outside in the cold to set fire to a poison wrapped paper tube and stick it in your mouth do sokers bother wearing a coat? What’s the point? It’s like putting a plaster on a scratch while chainsawing your arm off.

    • Barry Homan
      April 27, 2018 at 9:47 pm

      Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh

    • April 28, 2018 at 12:20 am

      I agree 100% with 50% of what you’ve said there Errol, and 50% with 100% of whatever you’re going on about. Just so you know, 100% of my response was written by someone else. They’d also like to know if the chainsaw you refer to is electric or petrol.

      https://youtu.be/g3HE4nqMjKY

      • C.F. Apollyon
        April 28, 2018 at 4:56 pm

        Reading the comments is almost like looking at an anger-O-meter.

        BTW, I don’t think the question about chainsaw exhaust is going to be addressed. Too much thinking involved. “Harmful” CO2 gasses and carbon monoxide and fossil fuels and chain lubricating oil and coal being burned and/or uranium being used to generate electricity and waste waters and mining and construction and wastes of all kinds…it could be maddening. So maddening, that one might be inclined to wonder about the origins of chainsaws.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhvEg3mPxkQ

        If the people were allowed to smoke inside their own home, this person wouldn’t have to worry about them smoking outside his window. But they should prolly have the right to smoke outside their own home as well.

        Shit like this teaches us to be civil and cordial to one another in practice, without relying on the goddamn law to enforce our will(s). To judge our own actions as to how we deal with things, as they happen. To learn about ourselves and how we think of others. How to manage our own lives and destinies without have to give someone else proxy in order to see it through. How to cope, and how to develop our coping mechanisms within the scope of our own personal situation(s), without having to rely on tools that are designed for “more than one”.

        A chainsaw is not designed to chop down just one tree…it’s designed to chop down many. A firearm with a 17 round magazine is not designed to kill 1 person 17 times…it’s designed to kill at least 17 people, 1 time each. A law may come from 1 person that thought it up…but it’s going to affect a shitload more than just one person.

        An asshole-O-meter might be appropriate here. Although we may need to pilliage the shit out of some foreign country’s natural resources and exploit their population in order to build them.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31S7weQH8JA

    • Liz
      April 28, 2018 at 6:35 am

      If smokers hadn’t been “trained” to smoke outside, their smoke would not be worrying you, nor would you see them smoking. Being revolted by the smell of cigarette smoke is an idea put into your head by brainwashing you. And you might be watching some of the huge percentage of smokers who live long and happy lives – especially if they have the courage to ignore you. You show all the symptoms of anti smoker spitefulness that will harm you far worse than any cigarette smoke ever could. It’s your own personal cancer activating thought pollution device. Absolutely lethal for you. Poor you!

    • Ripper
      April 28, 2018 at 9:45 am

      “My downstairs neighbours smoke continually. Even now, in pouring rain they’re outside, huddled in a coat puffing away. This comes in my window and it is disgusting. I’ve asked them to smoke out their front, away from me but they refuse to.”

      Not surprising, with an attitude like yours. Unless they are on your property, close your window. Its called ‘live and let live’.

      “When a smoker exhales the revolting stuff around me, I cough over them. For some reason, they think this is wrong and they are right.”

      There’s a big difference between exhaling smoke in a general area, and someone purposely coughing in your face. I could sympathize with you doing that if the smoker purposely blew smoke directly into your face but that’s not what happens is it? Also, I bet you choose your target well, for one day, if you choose the wrong smoker to do this with, you will be eating lunch in a hospital bed.

      “Smokers, just like anyone else have no right to smoke. They have only the responsibility to not affect others with their choices.”

      Wrong. Smokers have every right to use a LEGAL product. The law already ensures that they meet their responsibilities in the sense that they are governed where they can smoke. Its YOU who is not meeting YOUR responsibilities by standing around them – purposely I imagine, to give you something to whinge about.

      “PS – why, when going outside in the cold to set fire to a poison wrapped paper tube and stick it in your mouth do sokers bother wearing a coat?”

      That would be none of your business, but the question demonstrates how little you know about the substance you so hate, and how much of the anti smoking kool aid you’ve drank.

      I’m a non smoker but cigarette smoke has never bothered me, however, freedom of choice does.

  3. rapscallion
    April 27, 2018 at 3:40 pm

    Mein Gott BD – Something we actually have in common!

    My flabber is well and truly gasted.

  4. Frank
    April 27, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    As a non smoker (ex smoker, actually) I’d just like to say that smoking is disgusting. However, like free speech, I will support to the death* your right to do it.

    * Well, maybe not actual death, more like I’ll write a supportive comment on a blog. Will that do? 🙂

  5. C.F. Apollyon
    April 28, 2018 at 12:21 am

    https://media.giphy.com/media/jHLjo1mcUYve0/giphy.gif
    With respect to this upcoming war, if all smokers switch to vaping, where is that going to leave those who chew tobacco? Seems like the switch to vaping is playing right into the hands that want to make this smoking/non-smoking argument about nicotine, and not really smoking. That means it’s about health, and who decides what health/healthy is. Once you can do that, you’ve theoretically got both life and death by the balls.

    Seems to me that “they” are trying to do the same thing(s) with nicotine that has been done with alcohol, opium/opiates, hemp, sugar, salt, calories and the like. The eventuality is being able to synthesize gold, without synthesizing gold at all. Control any and all channels, all the way up from and down to the synapses that fire, and the continued ability for these synapses to continue to do so. The more avenues of life that you can control, the more covert and yet expansive the battles can become.

    That’s just me being paranoid tho.
    /shrug

  6. April 28, 2018 at 2:52 am

    I shall light a pipe and consider all the points of view. Quietly, calmly.

  7. Hereward Unbowed.
    April 28, 2018 at 8:01 am

    During WWII the UK government actively encouraged the men serving in the armed forces to smoke by offering them duty free smokes, amphetamines too.

    I would posit a question, tobacco is a legal not a proscribed drug, in raising the level of duties on tobacco to make it ie purchasing tobacco products out of reach of the pockets of many former addicts as we observe the law of unintended consequences and ‘on speed’ kicks in. To wit, would it be an unquestionable question to beg, by nigh banning one legal substance, how much did government policy albeit unknowingly contribute to the cocaine, crack, meth, weed, spice epidemic? If you shut one door people will always find another, see how prohibition went down – ‘down’ sorry – in the US.

    • Curious Scott
      April 28, 2018 at 9:33 am

      Not sure about popularity of illegal drugs being an alternative to tobacco. Certainly the price differential is not large, however if there is a direct connection then it’s likely to be with smokers now visiting each other’s homes – and being offered it, then taking it up.

      One thing is certain and that’s e cigarettes; they’re far less expensive and many employers allow them indoors. If not they can be used in corridors, toilets and store cupboards. Heat not burn is another spinoff that’s a direct result of these policies.

      Errol’s comment is repeated by thousands who have property close to pubs or clubs. He’s very sensitive to the smell, however what irritates most people is the noise that can become hugely intrusive if there are many people gathered.

      However I don’t go with spitting at them simply because two wrongs don’t make a right.

      But let’s not forget big pharma; they too are exploiting this with all manner of products billed as smoking cessation aids. And their profit margins are eye wateringly huge.

      • Hereward Unbowed.
        April 28, 2018 at 5:28 pm

        and missing the point by a country mile.

  8. April 28, 2018 at 10:12 am

    Sorry the comment approvals took so long – was dragged away.

  9. Junican
    April 28, 2018 at 3:37 pm

    I wonder it Errol would have the nerve to enter a cafe and buy a cup of coffee, and then stand in the middle of the room and shout, “STOP ALL THAT TALKING AND LAUGHING! I WANT TO DRINK MY COFFEE AND READ MY PAPER IN PEACE AND QUIET!”
    I cannot see any difference essentially between that scenario and the bulk of his comment.

  10. Pcar
    April 29, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @Errol

    My downstairs neighbours smoke continually. Even now, in pouring rain they’re outside, huddled in a coat puffing away…

    Why and are they outside?

    Are they forbidden to smoke in their own home – by whom?

    As they smoke continually they’re homeless then; show some sympathy.

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