Since When Was It The Council’s Job To Give ‘Permission’ To Lay A Wreath?

A spokeswoman said: ‘We’re working with all groups involved in these proposals, and the agreed route doesn’t include laying a wreath or visiting the memorial. The EDL has been co-operative and agreed not to lay a wreath. It hasn’t informed us it intends to, and it won’t be allowed to because the council refused it permission to do so.’

What, exactly, are they going to do if they do try?

Cllr Vernon-Jackson said: ‘We’re going to fence the memorial off for the day.

Have we gone totally mad?

12 comments for “Since When Was It The Council’s Job To Give ‘Permission’ To Lay A Wreath?

  1. July 15, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Yes we have.

    What if I’m a member of EDL and choose to lay a wreath in my personal capacity, because the name of one of my ancestors is on the cenotaph, and not in my capacity as member of EDL?

    • July 16, 2011 at 6:57 am

      I really don’t see how they could stop you, but they’ve fenced it off. So perhaps we’d be treated to the unedifying sight of mourners playing ‘ring toss’ with wreaths!

  2. WitteringWitney
    July 15, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Were I to live in Portsmouth I could only say: “Over my dead body”!

  3. 6079SmithW
    July 15, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    The Royal British Legion normally arrange laying of wreaths in formal proceedings, but, as far as I am aware, will not stop anyone from doing so. Anyone can roll up and lay a wreath on Remembrance Sunday.

    Local councils have nothing to do with the procedures other than as participants.

    To claim otherwise would be a gross abuse of their supposed ‘authority’.

    To presume authority at any other time of year would seem to be an even greater abuse.

    War memorials do not belong to any council.

    They belong to us.


  4. 6079SmithW
    July 15, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Read the link.

    How ironic:

    ” Unite Against Fascism protesters have also confirmed they will be in Portsmouth to hold a vigil when the march takes place on Saturday.

    Its Portsmouth representative, Simon Magorian, said: ‘We won’t march, because you have to give 16 weeks’ notice. But we will hold a vigil in Guildhall Square.’

    It seems pretty fascist to demand 16 weeks notice for a march, so for “Unite Against Fascism” (ho ho ho) to acquiesce to this fascist demand for notice doesn’t seem very ‘against’ to me.


    • July 16, 2011 at 6:57 am

      It’s only a very small, specific type of fascism they seem to be against…

  5. Peter
    July 15, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    Why are councils always ‘working with’?

    They’re not making widgets, they are sitting around talking.

    President Reagan was able to visit Bitburg. There was an uproar (from the usual types) because of the SS connection, many happily overlooking the fact that the Wehrmacht could be right rotters when they felt like it. But hey, you don’t get headlines without outrage, eight?

  6. July 16, 2011 at 5:13 am

    Several of the EDL on the march are native to Portsmouth and have deceased relatives who served and died for their country and wish to remember them. The councils actions are totally illegal and an affront to common decency.

  7. Greg Tingey
    July 16, 2011 at 10:20 am


    EDL are the heirs to the BNP and the British Union of Fascists.
    So, that’s like Nzis turning up at Yad Vashem.
    If a private person wishes to lay a wreath, that is their right.


    I am NOT proposing a solution, please note.

    • July 17, 2011 at 6:13 am

      From what the police bloggers say, the main core of the EDL seems to be frustrated ex-football hooligans, rather than people with any great interests in politics!

      • David
        July 17, 2011 at 11:41 am

        But they ARE interested in getting the country back from political quislings and Islamofascists, so who cares. Hats off to them; they’re doing more than we are, sitting around pontificating on blogs!

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