Good Fences Make Good Neighbours..?

A Rossendale primary school has become the subject of a public inquiry five years after blocking off its playing fields which were used as a village green.

Wow, imaging the OUTRAGE! from the usual suspects if a local businessman had tried this!

Bosses at Helmshore Primary School erected a two-metre high fence around the perimeter of the school’s playing fields after having problems with dog mess and broken glass.The fence caused friction with local residents who argued villagers had had right of way on the site at Gregory Fold for more than 70 years.

Well, shouldn’t be too much of a problem, after all, the council wouldn’t have granted planning permission for…


Lancashire County Council which owns the land erected the fencing without permission


‘One law for them’, again…

… but after a 900 signature petition was presented to the town hall, county council bosses were forced to apply for retrospective planning permissionfrom their own committee.Councillors refused the application after 100 residents turned up to show their disapproval.

But, but, but…’s for the chiiilllldreeeeennnn!

County Councillor Susie Charles, Cabinet Member for Children and Schools, said: “The county council erects fences primarily because of children’s safety and security. There are clear dangers attached to having open unsupervised access to primary school playing fields, and we need to be able to stop children from wandering.”


10 comments for “Good Fences Make Good Neighbours..?

  1. August 5, 2011 at 7:48 am

    Half and half on this one. Schools do tend to have fences but agree the council reaction was overreaction.

  2. August 5, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Villagers “had had right of way” for more than 70 years, or had been acting like they owned the bloody place for more 70 years?

    • August 6, 2011 at 6:45 am

      As Jim points out, this is what happens with private property. So the council can’t squeal when it happens to them! 😈

      • August 7, 2011 at 1:25 am

        Yeah, understood, but it doesn’t mean I agree with the concept of property rights magically evaporating after a certain period of time has passed.

    • Budvar
      August 7, 2011 at 12:38 am

      AE, it being a local authority school, the school and land belong not to the council, but to the local taxpayers. The council are only “trustees”, there to administer on behalf of said taxpayers.

      • August 7, 2011 at 1:26 am

        Fair point. Poor example for me to get on that particular rant.

  3. Maaarrghk!
    August 5, 2011 at 10:26 am

    With our local skool it was junkies syringes being found several mornings a week.

    Surely the proper solution to this is the proper application of the laws that already exist against various forms of littering – especially vile dogshit.

    Methinks the fence was an easier alternative to some council bod getting threatened, thumped or bitten whilst attenpting to apprehend some lout or selfish dog owner.

    • August 6, 2011 at 6:46 am

      “Surely the proper solution to this is the proper application of the laws that already exist …”

      In a sane world, it would be.

  4. Jim
    August 5, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    The council has fallen foul of the the laws it often imposes on private landowners. If a private landowner allows unfettered public access to his land for too long (a lot less than 70 years certainly, possibly as little as 10 years) then a public right of way is created which cannot be blocked by fencing, and can only be removed by public enquiry. I have no doubt what side the council would be on if this was a private landowner vs residents case. Its funny to see the attitude they adopt when the boot is on the other foot.

    • August 6, 2011 at 6:46 am

      Schadenfreude is a lovely feeling, eh? 😆

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