An utter waste of time

Seems there’s going to be a new (all expenses paid) independent commission to discuss a new UK Bill of Rights as people are not too happy with the European Court of Human Rights interfering in our system using the Human Rights Act as justification for its meddling (thanks Labour).


An independent commission has started to seek views from the public on the need for a UK Bill of Rights.
The Commission on a UK Bill of Rights was set up by the government in March to explore a range of issues around human rights law.
It came amid a row over a 2005 European Court of Human Rights’ ruling that the UK was unlawfully operating a blanket ban preventing prisoners from voting.
MPs voted overwhelmingly to defy the ruling and maintain the ban.
The free vote took place in parliament in February.
Prime Minister David Cameron famously said that the prospect of lifting the ban made him feel “physically ill”.
The controversy was one of many in which the application of human rights law infuriated parts of the press and the country.

Sounds great so far, though here’s the main problem, the source of all the complaints will have to remain in place and be the building block of any new Bill of Rights…

However, the Commission’s terms of reference make it clear that a British Bill of Rights will build on the UK’s obligations under the European Convention and ensure that the convention’s rights continue to be enshrined in British law.

In other words they are wasting our time and money doing something which isn’t going to work anyway.

The only way a UK bill of Rights will work is if we remove the Human Rights Act and go from earlier Bills of Rights which suit our people and not an amorphous EU whole. That’s not to say I don’t think people, even criminals have rights, just that some rights aren’t actually a right at all. With rights there equally should come responsibilities, if you break the law, you lose certain rights including the right to roam free and commit further crimes and also the right to respect for family life and privacy along with any opportunity to vote too. A complex system of equal rights for all simply will not work if the villain has exactly the same rights as the victim. The only rights a villain should have are the right to a fair trial, the right to appeal and the right to be housed and fed securely and safely at her majesties pleasure. That’s all the basic rights they need, the law abiding rest of us get the full package.

Cameron was supposed to be getting rid of the HRA, naturally enough he hasn’t, he really even tried for a British Bill of Rights, he got told by Ken Clarke that such a bill would have to lie on top of EU law anyway and not supersede it. No-one in government it seems is prepared to do anything about injustices within the HRA system, no one in government it seems is willing to leave the EU, the ECHR and scrap the hideous legislation foisted upon us by the previous government such as the HRA and the abysmal Equalities Act.
Seems they’d rather ignore abuse than do something about it and then they wonder why we hold them in contempt.

9 comments for “An utter waste of time

  1. David
    August 7, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    We already have a Bill of Rights so they can fcuk off! 😡

    • August 7, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      Yes, we DO have a Bill of Rights, and it is still on the Statute Book.
      What needs to be done is to enforce it, especially in the Commons, so that each and every piece of legislation MUST comply with it.

      Simply ignoring it, hoping it will go away and creating a new one will not do.

      • British Patriot
        August 7, 2011 at 11:57 pm

        They want a new bill of rights precisely because most legislation is unlawful under our present bill.They also want a BOR to do away with the principle of a Parliament not being able to bind a future Parliament so they can sign us into the EUSSR forever.

  2. john in cheshire
    August 7, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Vote for me and will repeal the HRA on the day I am elected as dictator. You will also be out of the EU and the many millions of third world immigrants will be given 48 hours to leave. I will also use the same methods that General Pinochet used to confront and deracinate our vast body of socialists in all walks of life, including the destruction of the bbc. These actions will be done within my first 100 days in office.

    • August 7, 2011 at 3:07 pm

      Why would you want to get rid of all 3rd world immigrants? I’d only get rid of the non productive drones. I have no problem at all with people coming here being prepared to work hard to get a prosperous life, I object to the state dipping into my pocket to pay for those who wont work to better their lives.

      • Loki
        August 7, 2011 at 4:02 pm

        Hear, hear QM. Nail/head.

        • Maaarrghk!
          August 8, 2011 at 1:07 pm

          My wife is an immigrant of exactly the kind that QM has not a problem with.

          Most of my families politics could be best summed up as “slightly left of centre”.

          So john Cheshire would be happy to have my wife deported – what about our baby? Will he cut it in half and one half shipped out whilst the other can remain?

          And he is also happy to see most of my family tortured to death after being “disappeared”.

          You really are a complete and utter CUNT John Cheshire.

          Now just piss off to some neo-nazi site where you might get a more favorable audience for your foul bile.

          • JQ
            August 8, 2011 at 4:46 pm

            He’d have to deport himself as he’s from the “third world” anyway

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