The alcohol Jihad

I like a drink, I rarely drink to excess and I have never ever caused trouble when drunk, fallen over once or twice, but never injured anyone including myself. Some people can’t handle their drink and do cause trouble though, however that’s no good reason to either ban alcohol or make it prohibitively expensive. We have laws to deal with drunk and disorderly behaviour, if they were properly enforced then the situation of public drunkenness  that gets the righteous so up in arms wouldn’t be an issue. As it is, the police are either doing paperwork to justify their existence or chasing motorists, a far easier target.

This is South Wales.
TIGHTER controls on the sale of alcohol are desperately needed in Carmarthen — over fears boozing is creating a health time-bomb.
Latest figures show there are 105 licenses across the town and 90 of those are in the south ward of the town.
Town and county councillor Arwel Lloyd who represents the ward said the licenses are made up of pubs, restaurants and off licenses and takeaways.
He added: “We are looking to stop the number of problems stemming from the sale of alcohol,” he said. “We have allowed 105 licences to sell alcohol. To me that doesn’t make too much sense.
“In a town this size, when we are trying to sort out issues of antisocial behaviour, we have all these alcohol licenses making the situation worse.
“We need to look at the current process and need perhaps more co-operation between various organisations and local people that are affected by the decisions being made.”
There has also been a call for alcohol rationing on a county wide level to tackle the problem.
Town and county councillor Peter Hughes Griffiths, leader of the Plaid group on Carmarthenshire Council, has suggested a study be commissioned into the problem. He said there was concern about alcohol licensing, adding: “We have to do something about this.”

As far as I’m aware drinking is not a crime, nor is there a limit on the number of Off Licenses and outlets in any town, that there are 105 licenses suggests that there is a market for them. Nor is it or should it be the concern of councillors just what people drink or the state of their health. If people are wrecking the town when drunk they might have a bit of a point, however for those who do drink to excess, if they cause a nuisance whilst drunk, lock them up, simples.
But no, the politicians, quango’s and fake charities that get so much of our hard earned cash have to be involved and tell us what we can and can’t do. Personally I say sod em! What I do with my body is my business, not theirs, never has been, never will be. If I want to drink myself into an early grave that’s my business too. That I choose not too should give them pause, adults are capable of making rational decisions with their lives without their help, that we do would put them out of a job, so that can’t be allowed now can it, so they come up with excuses to interfere.

A few days before a full meeting of the county council, Councillor Huw Lewis had suggested rationing alcohol should be seriously considered, saying: “By rationing no one would be able to have more than what is considered suitable by medical officials.”
And, at full council, he said: “We will have to regard alcohol as we do any other drug to ensure that no one is able to provide more than is permitted by the experts.
“There are far too many lives being threatened from the sale of alcohol. Because we sell more alcohol we create more social and physical problems.
“As long as we allow people to drink more than is reasonably permitted that problem will continue to grow.”
He added: “It’s high time we faced up to the situation and ensure that this doesn’t continue into the next generation. This is going to call for a great deal of guts from councillors of all parties.”

As far as I’m aware there is no laws which limit the amount people drink so God alone knows where Huw Lewis is getting his ideas from, nor does rationing work, people will just drive to where rationing isn’t or people will smuggle booze in. Nor as I have said should it be the concern of the council as to who is drinking what or how much.

Normally I would suggest to the good folk in Carmarthen that these idiots should be voted out of office, save only that some people will go for the idea that somehow or other this is a good idea. Perhaps we should just let them get on with it until its abject failure, save only that they are likely to try ever more extreme methods to make it work.

Why do we vote for these cretins?

16 comments for “The alcohol Jihad

  1. David A. Evans.
    August 21, 2011 at 7:03 am

    I’m giving up on voting anyway. As someone once said…
    “It doesn’t matter who you vote for, you always get the government!”

  2. August 21, 2011 at 7:55 am

    “As far as I’m aware there is no laws which limit the amount people drink”

    You missed the word “yet”!

  3. Twenty_Rothmans
    August 21, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Is it just me, or is Wales the best example of a country that doesn’t really demonstrate the maturity required for autonomy?

    They seem to be some of the best whiners you’ll come across. Re-read these and weep:
    Arwel von Lloyd, Reichsmoron: “We are looking to stop the number of problems stemming from the sale of alcohol, because the idea of fixing the economy is too fucking hard” he said in a comical sing-song voice.

    Councillor cum Gauleiter Huwy Lewis (and the News) had suggested rationing alcohol should be seriously considered, saying: “By rationing no one would be able to have more than what is considered suitable by medical officials.” the fool demanded, flecks of spittle flying from his crimson lips. He then returned to recovering fluff from his belly button and eating it.

    “We want our own Stasi, and I am looking forward to the introduction of Blockwaechter” said another jumped-up control freak. “Anybody doing anything of which I disapprove will be taken away for processing and re-education”, he said, with a look on his face like a fifteen-year old who’s necked his father’s Cialis and discovered Redtube.

    Another councillor, between bouts of coughing up thick, pea-soup like phlegm from black lung disease and blaming Thatcher for closing coal mines and the Aberfan disaster added: “Anything not compulsory must be made illegal. Smoking in cars must be banned and the mines must be reopened. We have the right to dig like peasants in a minuscule tunnel 900 feet underground in searing heat and at great peril, coming home to a hovel with no running water, indelibly and perpetually stained with greasy black grime, to mine coal which we can’t sell”.

    Are not the only truly great Welshmen pissheads?

    • Fred Forsythe (not the)
      August 21, 2011 at 9:04 am

      sounds like a few backhanders to cut competition to me.
      No politician is interested in your health, only his own pocket.

    • Chuckles
      August 21, 2011 at 9:59 am

      Seems a shame to intrude on the privacy of the place?

    • August 21, 2011 at 12:15 pm

      Any pub that plays the PC game is the kind of pub that needs to go bust. Name and Shame them so others can avoid it.

      • August 22, 2011 at 5:48 am

        The management isn’t pleased; I suspect a bartender will be looking for work today!

  4. Twenty_Rothmans
    August 21, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    I recommend that you put something soft and rubbery between your teeth when you read the comments. It appears that some people are in favour of the Oberbloodygruppenfuehrer’s actions.

  5. August 21, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    We will have to regard alcohol as we do any other drug to ensure that no one is able to provide more than is permitted by the experts.

    That is chilling. Those words, uttered without the slightest attempt at irony. We are indeed up against it.

  6. Furor Teutonicus
    August 21, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    XX He added: “We are looking to stop the number of problems stemming from the sale of alcohol,” he said. “We have allowed 105 licences to sell alcohol. To me that doesn’t make too much sense.XX

    They really can not see further than the ends of their noses can they?

    Everywhere here from pubs, clubs and restraunts, to newspaper shops, petrol stations, street corner food and sweet kiosks, and even the local BARBER FFS(!), sell beers wines and spirits. Do we have these “drink problems”?

    I am not saying drunkeness never happens here, nor denying that in places it can be a problem. But most of the “problems” are restricted to those going to or from “football” matches, or at festival/carnival time. (Except for maybe Mecca, or Daar el Salaam, go ANYWHERE in the world on new years eve, or something like St Patricks day in Boston, New York, Chicago…. and you will see the same.)

    Supply/availability is OBVIOUSLY not the problem here. What IS, or appears to be the problem, are the millions of younger Brits who appear to be getting pissed at the SIGHT of a bar maids apron.

    Your whole country appears to have become a nursery school in the hands of some besandled wierdo, crochet nicker wearing, poetry reading, lentil eating renegade arsehole hippy from the teacher training school of the class of 1968, as the headmaster.

    From what I have read on the various blogs, here, Leg Iron, Julia M, etc,one word comes to mind to describe Britain of today.

    JUVENILLE.

    Juvenille in word, thought, deed, attitude, ideas, emotion, and leadership.

    Basically someone needs to grip Britain by the collar and give it one massive boot up the arse, and tell the lot to “GROW THE FUCK UP YOU BASTARDS!”

  7. Uncle Badger
    August 21, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    I wonder if anybody has ever totted-up the number of directly sports-related injuries treated by the NHS, or calculated the long term damage done by sporting activities and what it costs us to treat them?

    The neo-puritans would have a fit.

  8. meltemian
    August 21, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    The Welsh do seem to have a strange attitude to alcohol.
    I remember in the ’60’s driving miles to find a pub that wasn’t closed on a Sunday. Everyone apparently went to the next county to drink on Sunday evenings.

    • banned
      August 23, 2011 at 1:58 am

      Some districts in Wales were indeed the last to remain ‘dry’ on Sundays but, as you say, drinkers solved the problem by drining eleswhere and then driving home, pissed.

  9. Peter MacFarlane
    August 22, 2011 at 10:47 am

    @Meltemian: Scotland used to be like that. On Sundays all the pubs were closed and you had to go to a hotel. Don’t ask me why. On Public Holidays everything was shut and you had to go to the next town. Again, don’t ask me why. I suspect the Churches had something to do with it, probably the Wee Frees.

    Oh, and closing time was 10pm, no exceptions ever.

    Miserable bastards.

  10. August 23, 2011 at 2:01 am

    councillor Arwel Lloyd knows perfectly well that he does not have a shred of authority to ration alcohol and neither does anybody else except the vendors. What this story is doing is floating the idea in the public domain to the usual refrain of “it’ll never happen here”, just like the smoking ban.

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