I don’t think this will work the way they expect

Kudos to the judge who decided to send Munir Farooqi to jail for recruiting jihadi’s with a cumulative set of 4 life sentences, but there’s a bit of a flaw in the reasoning that I can see here unless they decide that Munir Farooqi is going to be kept in solitary confinement for the rest of his sentence.


A former Taliban fighter who ran a ”recruitment centre” in Manchester for extremist Muslims to go to Afghanistan to kill British troops was today jailed for life. 

Pakistani-born British citizen Munir Farooqi, 54, was at the centre of a plot to radicalise and persuade vulnerable young men to ”fight, kill and die” in a jihad in Afghanistan, Manchester Crown Court heard.
Farooqi, of Victoria Terrace, Longsight, Manchester, and two others were captured in a police sting when two undercover anti-terrorism police officers infiltrated his group.
Farooqi bragged to the officers how he had fought with the Taliban and told them they could become ”martyrs” for the jihad cause.
He also found ”amusement” in the sight of the flag draped coffins of fallen allied troops returning from Afghanistan, the court heard.
Today Farooqi was given four life sentences and told he must serve a minimum of nine years before he can be considered for parole.

Ok, once you get past the idiocy of giving someone 4 life sentences and then stating he must serve at least 9 years before becoming eligible for parole you can guess what’s going to happen once Farooqi finally gets settled into the system. He’s going to start recruiting new convert jihadi’s, it’s what he does and prisons have a problem with Muslm extremists.

Sunday Mercury.

Amid the forests and foliage of leafy Littleton sits the forbidding fortress of HMP Long Lartin, where some of the world’s most dangerous Islamic extremists swap stories, prayers and even plots.
New research from inside the lock-up’s specialist terror suspect unit suggests that regular inmates are being converted to radical Islam by the dangerous militants who are allowed to mix with other lags – and even lead prayers.
Fanatics inside the Worcestershire prison include Mohammed Hamid, 51, dubbed Osama Bin London, who encouraged teenagers to become suicide bombers during camping trips in the Lake District.
Among his cellmates are Adel Abdel Bary, an Egyptian linked to Al Qaeda’s deputy leader Ayman Al-Zawihiri, who is fighting extradition to the US for the 1998 African embassy bombings which killed more than 200 people.
Mustapha Taleb, a disciple of hook-handed terror preacher Abu Hamza, kept a prison diary about how ordinary Muslim prisoners initially avoided extremists during his time inside Long Lartin.
“When we came here first, it was harsh, harsh treatment and harsh life,’’ he said. ‘‘Even the prisoners were like scared of us, because the system here told them that these people are very dangerous, you can’t mix with them.”
But ordinary Muslims’ initial fear of the detainees soon evaporated.
“With the brothers here, our Muslim brothers in the prison, it’s OK, it is as God wills it,” Taleb wrote. “There is some kind of harmony, connection between brothers in here, praise be to God.”
They have access to controversial Islamic texts, with terror detainee Barbar Ahmad writing in a blog from his cell that: “I understand now why prison is known as the University of Islamic Knowledge.”
They are reportedly allowed to share meals, and even lead prayers with other prisoners, raising fears that radicalisation could spread to other Muslims and even non-Muslim converts.

Why do I have the feeling that we’re setting the cat amongst the pigeons here and prison is the last place we want to be sending this guy? Personally I think a parachute and just the clothing he’s wearing along with a plane trip over central Afghanistan is the perfect solution for Farooqi seeing as he’s so enamoured of the place, if we want to be really cruel we could always shave the beard and tattoo I love Israel  to his forehead in the local dialect.

Yes I know it would breach his human rights, but I’m having a hard job regarding jihadi’s and their recruiters as actually being human at the moment, something Islam at its most extreme seems to strip away from ordinary people.

What appears to have happened looks just a bit like giving a fox the keys to the henhouse.

13 comments for “I don’t think this will work the way they expect

  1. September 10, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Why the parachute? 😈

    • September 10, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      It’s a no strings attached offer. :mrgreen:

      • September 11, 2011 at 6:42 am


  2. john in cheshire
    September 10, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    This is what happens when the death penalty is not an option.
    What amazes me is that reading history books about Germany in the 20s and 30s and pre-communist Russia, the socialist and communist thugs were jailed and then allowed out to continue on their original trajectory. One would have realised by now that when our enemies have been captured, the best recourse is to permanently neutralise them.

    • September 10, 2011 at 11:33 pm

      Fine in theory, but what happens when the state considers its own citizens – like maybe awkward bastards who criticise it and bang on about liberty, f’rinstance 😉 – an enemy as well? The government of the day might not abuse that power, and maybe not even any potential successors, but if you let a democracy run for long enough eventually it’ll elect someone who will. The only way to deal with that is to never entrust the state with any power you would not also be comfortable giving to a homicidal dictator.

      • Paul
        September 11, 2011 at 12:03 am

        …with the obvious point that a homicidal dictator could bring in any law he or she wishes anyway.

        • September 11, 2011 at 6:32 am

          Oh, and that’s a good reason to make it easier for ’em by putting everything in place beforehand? Well, no prob Bob, if that’s the way you feel. Let’s have your personal home surveillance equipment put in next week, shall we? How are you fixed for Wednesday afternoon? They’d come and do it earlier but you’re down to have the tracking device fitted to your car in the morning. 😉

          • Paul
            September 11, 2011 at 2:18 pm

            You’re thinking that I support having these laws in the first place. I don’t.

      • September 11, 2011 at 6:43 am

        They could always be ‘shot because they wouldn’t surrender’..? 😉

        • September 11, 2011 at 9:31 am

          And minus the quotes I’d lose no sleep over that, but having captured the guy alive I really don’t see what’s so hard about keeping in in solitary indefinitely. Carlos the Jackal was kept on his todd and when he whinged about it a French court told him to put the onion away and sod off. So do the same and, as Ian below says, make the sentences concurrent. Yes, I know the softcocks in the British judicial system will try to group hug him to rehabilitation but that doesn’t mean that how the French dealt with Carlos wasn’t working.

          On the other hand I did chuckle at the idea of him wandering around the ‘Stan with pro-Israel tattoos. Would you ink him in Hebrew for extra effect? 😈

  3. Ian
    September 10, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    “Concurrent” sentences! We used to do consecutive ones.

  4. Steve W
    September 11, 2011 at 9:39 am

    “…terror detainee Barbar Ahmad writing in a blog from his cell…”
    It can’t only be me that sees an issue here. We lock him up for crimes of terrorism, then provide him with an internet enabled computer, wtf is going on there? Most of us have to pay for these things for ourselves, now we pay for prisoners to enjoy them too?

    I guess access to the internet is now enshrined as a fundamental (pun intended) human right.

    • September 11, 2011 at 10:04 am

      Yes, yes, it is. Or rather, they’d make it so, if they could…

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