Reefer Madness!!

A Llanelli drugs worker has launched a campaign to rid the town centre of legally sold bongs and other drugs paraphernalia.

Yeah, you didn’t miss the ‘legally’ bit; there’s nothing wrong with selling these items at all.

So why has he got a bee in his bonnet about them?

Chief executive of Chooselife Wales Drug and Alcohol Intervention Service, Alan Andrews, feared it was being made all too easy for youngsters to get their hands on legal water pipes, which can be used to smoke cannabis.

Now, maybe I’m out of the loop, but these aren’t necessary for the smoking of cannabis at all, are they?

For that, you just need a packet of Rizlas (god, he’ll probably want to ban those next..) and some cannabis, surely?

He added that the wrong message was being sent to children by allowing so- called bongs and items such as tobacco tins emblazoned with cannabis leaves to be sold openly on street stalls — just yards from where he regularly parks the Chooselife mobile drop-in centre to offer support and advice.

We must think of the chiiiillllreeeeen!

“They are trying to stay within the law but all the paraphernalia on the stall has cannabis slogans and designson.”Kids start smoking it as young as 10 or 11 sometimes and for them to walk through town and see these things is sending the wrong message.

“What I’m asking is, does Llanelli want this sort of thing going on?”

What, a legal business operating in its streets, paying business rates and VAT? I’d have thought the answer was ‘Yes’…

“These people are earning money from other people’s misery,” he said.

I’m guessing you are the CEO of the ‘Chooselife Wales Drug and Alcohol Intervention Service’ for free, then, Mr Andrews?

Well, I certainly hope so, or the same charge could be levelled at you, couldn’t it?

Mr Andrews has alerted Carmarthenshire Council leader Meryl Gravell and Trading Standards to his campaign, and hopes to gain support in putting pressure on shops and stalls to stop selling drug-related items.

Trading Standards, however, gave him the brush off. But I bet some councillor with time on his hands and a desire to get his name in the papers picks it up and runs with it…

Angry Exile’s right about those people that write drugs policy, isn’t he?

16 comments for “Reefer Madness!!

  1. November 6, 2011 at 11:57 am

    The greatest problem with cannabis is where you got it from, whether it has been cut with something and the overall quality. With it being banned, there’s no control over that, no industry standards. I seriously can’t see the issue with it in itself – it’s no worse than alcohol or tobacco and I’ve never seen it lead to harder stuff. Many people already into it simply because it’s illegal and naughty, e.g. kids, are always going to have other stuff pushed onto them because it’s the same sort of dealers or else the weed dealer knows the other guy and can get it.

    Legalize it and it goes in packs behind the counter with the fags, the Rizlas and the top shelf stuff and is administered the same way. You’d almost kill off the black market.

  2. November 6, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Funnily enough I meant to post a while back on the recent banning of hitherto legal bongs here in Victoria but I never got round to it. Anyway, the ban went through and will take effect from January 1st next year. Just you wait and watch as absolutely nothing whatsoever happens to the amount of pot used by Victorians, who’ll either be smoking joints or simply making their own bongs. Since it turns out that a basic bong can be constructed from a mineral water bottle, a disposable biro, some tin foil and some glue or tape I can’t see it making any real difference even to the amount of pot smoked in bongs. What it will do is end the trade in beautiful bongs that can be used just as ornaments or for smoking legal products.

    Incidentally, my only experience of bong use was legal, and used a lovely looking metal bong which looked a bit like pewter but wasn’t. It was legal because we had regular rolling tobacco in it, but we still got a non-tobacco effect because we were using vodka instead of water. If you’re a smoker and drinker I suggest you try that before that gets banned too.

    PS Glad to see the ‘Mad as a cut snake’ tag getting use, Julia.

    • November 7, 2011 at 6:23 am

      It seemed apposite! 😛

  3. November 6, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    What JH says. Another upside of legalising it, is that we could have ‘ethically sourced’ cannabis from favoured countries (i.e. lots of sunshine but low wages) this would also reduce the UK’s carbon footprint because the amount of electricity you need to run a cannabis farm with all the fancy lighting is horrific.

    • November 6, 2011 at 2:34 pm

      Pretty much can be applied to all narcotics. Let people go to hell in the hand-basket of their choice – legally. And at the same time cut off the funding to the modern Al Capones.

      • james Higham
        November 6, 2011 at 4:43 pm


    • Lord T
      November 7, 2011 at 3:30 pm


      If it was legalised I’d buy from a different non approved place. I don’t buy this ethical stuff and the other rubbish. It’s just a cartel and deprives the farmers.

      I do my bit to screw up everything they do. Legally of course. Fuck em.

  4. Greml
    November 6, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    Mr Andrews is an idiot. If he asserted that these implements attracted children to tobacco, he’d likely have a lot more support.

    • November 7, 2011 at 6:24 am

      To echo LR below, don’t give him ideas!

  5. November 6, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    For that, you just need a packet of Rizlas (god, he’ll probably want to ban those next..)

    Oh, don’t give him ideas… 😯

  6. November 6, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    “These people are earning money from other people’s misery,” he said.

    He should go after the shoe shops first, then. I can’t tell you what agony those stillettoes are. Although I will, and you will reply that if I’m stupid enough to buy the ruddy things, I deserve all the knee trouble I get.

    And you’d be right.

    • November 7, 2011 at 6:24 am


  7. Northern Smoker
    November 6, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    “These people are earning money from other people’s misery,”
    No – that’s doctors and lawyers – as the half forgotten misquote goes.

    actually – if you think about it – practically anything you can buy could be construed as making money out of your misery.Therapy shopping anyone?

  8. sovereigntea
    November 6, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    What is the only product bar casualties from Afghanistan after 10 yrs ?

    War is a racket as indeed is war on drugs. Prohibition ensures a very profitable tax and regulation free marketplace for those who control the supply and the prison industrial complex makes far more out war on drugs than any potential tax receipts would. Cops customs courts lawyers prisons banks a whole industry sector. Imagine what its worth to companies like Serco.

    Another plus from the perspective of the authoritarian state is the requirement for a standing army of police which secure their position justified by high crime figures generated from the situation they created in the first place via prohibition.

    Legalise the lot, tax sales and watch the crime figures plummet. Gangsters may have to resort to robbing banks. Use the tax receipts to educate the youth and to sort out those who can’t help themselves and take it or leave it as the majority of us can.

    The about will never happen as the PTB make too much money from other peoples misery and care not about you and yours.

    excerpt from

    Overall, the amount of drug proceeds ($378 billion dollars) that the CDC deposited into Wachovia Bank actually equaled one third of Mexico’s entire $1.4 trillion dollar annual GDP.

    As part of the agreement Wachovia agreed to pay the government a fine of $110 million dollars with an additional fine of $50 million dollars to be paid to the U.S. Treasury Department. The total fine of $160 million dollars was less than 2% of the bank’s $12.3 billion dollars in profit made in 2009. By the time Wachovia agreed to pay the hefty fine, Wells Fargo purchased Wachovia during the banking crisis for $12.7 billion. Then Well Fargo reaped a windfall from the government, a gift of $25 billion dollars of taxpayers money as part of President Obama stimulus package in 2009.

  9. Maaarrghk!
    November 8, 2011 at 6:40 am

    I’ve always been puzzled why we have not taken over the heroin trade whilst in Afghanistan. It would certainly win hearts and minds over there if we bought from source at a fair price instead of leaving control to these “Warlords”.

    I have read that there is a shortage of opiate based pain killers for the relief of pain in terminal cancer patients and that we are having to rely on expensive sythesized opiates.

    And of course it pulls the rug from under the feet of the drug dealers here – they would have to do something with a greater risk of getting caught to make a crooked living.

    • November 8, 2011 at 7:51 am

      I have absolutely zero evidence for this but if anyone’s seriously suggested such a move it’s possible that Australia would try to block or at least have a bloody good moan about it. Something in the region of half the world’s morphine is produced from poppy crops in Tasmania and I’m sure they wouldn’t welcome competition or reduced prices resulting from a big Afghani crop joining in. But of course it’s at least as likely, probably more so, that it’s a pig headed refusal of governments fighting the increasingly ludicrous war on drugs to have nothing at all to do with teh ebil drug peeps, even when it makes perfect economic and social sense.

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