A Call to Arms

Matthew Illsley asked me to look at his pamphlet “A call to Arms”.

You can download the PDF from his website if you wish. In principle, Matthew is saying much what many of us are saying; the system is broken. It doesn’t matter who you vote for, you get the same old, same old and don’t we know it.

Blogging is a cul-de-sac…

Blogging is surely nothing but a cul-de-sac of dreams if it doesn’t lead to positive, real-world

actions, and I believe it is within our power to rally people towards secession.

And this is the thrust of Matthew’s argument, secession. Now, the thought of seceding does have appeal to me. However, it’s not entirely clear how this will work from the essay. Secession has a pretty bloody precedent –  the Confederate States of America found out pretty sharply that governments don’t take kindly to folk packing up their bags and leaving the party. Closer to home, the Basques would very much like to secede from Spain and France. Much good it has done them.

Given this, how would we secede? The article tells us what the problem is and for people reading this, none of it is likely to be new –  the party system guarantees more of the same, social democracy results in a bloated state and over taxation to bay for its largesse.

The question that I would ask Matthew is this; who is to secede and how? Will it be city states a la ancient Greece? Or will it be something more akin to counties such as Cornwall?

I would also suggest that the only way this would happen is through violent revolution. This always comes with a caveat; one tyrant becomes supplanted by another.

So, all in all, an interesting read, but tends to raise as many questions as it answers.

Over to the floor, chaps –  or is that the cul-de-sac?

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10 comments for “A Call to Arms

  1. witteringwitney
    December 26, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Secession can take place quite easily, if sufficient people demand it. It would be a secession from the present, skewed, system of democracy that we now have. It could be done quite painlessly and through the ballot box. All it needs is for a party (existing or new) to stand on the campaign of ‘Referism’ and Direct Democracy – and I don’t mean that half-baked idea contained in Hannan and Carswell’s ‘The Plan’, one which is a faux-direct democracy as it maintains the control of MPs and central government.

    Simples…….

  2. nemesis
    December 27, 2011 at 1:56 am

    Im thinking – colonize a small corner of the UK and then declaring UDI.

  3. December 27, 2011 at 6:24 am

    I don’t think blogging is a ‘cul-de-sac’ – I think, without it, many people don’t say what they really feel because we have a small circle of real-life friends and relatives and – if they don’t share your opinions – you think you must be the only one that thinks this, or who that bothers.

    With the blogging option, that disappears.

    • December 28, 2011 at 9:48 am

      I agree. It was Matthew that suggested otherwise. Blogging provides a useful means by which ideas can be propagated and nurtured.

  4. December 27, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Secession from the EU?

  5. Jack Savage
    December 27, 2011 at 9:37 am

    My friends living there tell me that the West Country has been ready to secede for decades if not centuries.

    Do not knock the bloggers…..think of it as a preliminary stage.

    • December 27, 2011 at 1:05 pm

      I have often argued on my blog that “Fragmentation” will follow the EU and that it is highly unlikely to be constrained by the national borders that prevailed before that particular disaster occurred.

      In the case of the West Country mentioned here by Jack Savage, Ancient Dumnonia could be a likely contender, interestingly possibly even straddling the Western Approached, more reading here:

      http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesBritain/BritishAncientDumnonia.htm

  6. December 27, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    With vanishingly rare exceptions (the Glorious and American revolutions being the exceptions), short-term bloodshed and defeat for the side of freedom and long-term tyranny seem to be the usual reward for violent insurrection – at least when unsupported by armies and suppliers from outside, usually whole industrialised states.
    Germany was denazified by armies of occupation, and thus made democratic (kind of) but I can’t imagine any kind of insurrection in this country that the United Left and the Islamic fifth column wouldn’t win; they’re just more savage, being totalitarian than we are – and more numerous, thanks to statist education, the public sector unions and the huge bureacracy our friendly State broadcaster. And who would support a new British Revolution dedicated to a smaller government, lower taxes and less regulation, regaining national control of our borders and our defence forces? Obama or Romney’s USA? An insulted and ignored Commonwealth? Malta, maybe, but no other European country; let alone the EUrabian government itself.
    Best to fight battles we can win, and win in our way; slowly and peacefully, and over a lifetime if that’s what it takes.
    I wonder what Pope John Paul II thought about Stalin’s remark “How many divisions does the Pope have?” as he watched the Iron Curtain fall…

  7. December 27, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    I see two potential difficulties; firstly the initial groundswell needed to create sufficient support and secondly the resistance of the Westminster government to let such a section of the country go.

    It will be interesting to see how Scotland fares should there be a vote for independence.

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