The feral underclass

This is why blogging is so hard to get away from. In the post on Cu**s, I left a link:

… and then went to the link. Under that was a comment:

This is what happens when you pay the thick feral breeder, I want it now, underclass to breed like rats for decades and this is why benefits to the breeders will not be cut because the government knows that violent revolution and “social unrest” will ensue. This was predicted decades ago .Published in the Sunday Times I believe in the 80s.I remember reading it (showing my age with a sense of disbelief. . If you don’t believe me, Google Charles Murray underclass. [Jean, Blackburn, Lancs]

I googled that and came up with exactly what Jean referred to. This then makes you stop and think. Germany had that feral underclass in the thirties and if you accept a premise of Them being sentient as a class and taking decisions which impact on society years earlier, then the inevitable result of that is:

This is appalling, some children’s behaviour is so out of hand. Only today whilst leaving Costco I saw a child aged about 7 repeatedly thump his mum/nan, the woman made no attempt to tell him off, encourage better behavour – until that is she got a bit fed up and KICKED him – still not a word – could not believe my eyes but I do fear for our children’s future. [Jo, Liverpool]

Interesting where both commenters come from. I’m not a thousand miles from Lancs and I see it every time I go out – there was one on Saturday in fact and he was quite feral. I let him on the train with a nod before my bike and me and he grunted but the look in his eye was hard to describe, remote, unfettered, Burrough’s wild boys. Who’s to know what moral compass was inside – might have been the nicest person. They also hunt in packs.

Look, you either accept social engineering as a reality or you don’t and then believe things all happen randomly. If you believe that, then they happen randomly in repetitive patterns in history but I’ve seen that many who won’t accept the social engineering also pooh-pooh the efficaciousness of history. So therefore they have nothing to compare the current behaviour to.

You only need look at Blair. He was groomed in 1993, in the sense that he followed Brown’s 1991 visit to the Masters but that means he must have been noticed years earlier as a possibility – susceptible to promises of being of the elite, sucked in with words of the impact he personally was going to make [also Obama, also Gordo’s saving the world], also Agatha Christie’s quote about German propaganda:

These people were ready to betray their country – not for money – but in a kind of megalomaniacal pride in what they – they themselves – were going to achieve for that country. In every land it has always been the same. It is the Cult of Lucifer — Lucifer, Son of the Morning. Pride and a desire for personal glory. [N or M, 1941]

So, not only do they have pretensions to the elite, e.g. Balls or fulfil key roles e.g. Kaletsky but the overriding element is that they don’t think for themselves and are subject to patronage. They are dull people who play the game and assume the rhetoric and groupthink in buckets. Blair and Obama were remarkably similar in the “Yes we can” type inanity which you’re meant to take as being the man to resolve your own particular gripe, whereas he follows the agenda of the Masters, which uses both him and you as pawns. At least Harbag is open about her own agenda and not sleazy enough to become a Blair or Obama. She just wants men obliterated from any key office.

Back to the feral boys [and girls] – they, in whippersnapper form, come into the shop and the parents let them do as they wish. On Saturday was a case in point. The grandmother had no control at all as the little spotty herbert came in ahead of her and proceeded to take and throw things on the floor, take books out of shelves, look at the pictures and then leave them. Time and again I stepped in and then addressed her. Turned out she agreed but had no way of doing anything with the little snot – he was beyond her. I was sorely tempted to take summary action, sorely but would have been up on charges, no?

And look what they become – the feral youth I saw getting on the train, utterly beyond reason, libertarianism in its finest form. Not. There have always been these two distinct strains in libertarianism – the feral, la Vey “do as thou wilt and if you try to stop me, you’ll be met with disproportionate violence” type … and then the type of libertarianism which says we are not animals, we are adults, humans and have a right for the State to butt out and let us create our own lives and for us to do that with a mind to respecting other people’s right to live theirs.

As for the feral underclass – we are beginning to reap the whirlwind of the hidden social engineers.

11 comments for “The feral underclass

  1. Westerlyman
    January 9, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    There has never been a strain of libertarianism that believed in actions without responsibility to others. That is not libertarianism. It is not even anarchy, it is simply barbarism.

    • Daedalus
      January 9, 2012 at 8:53 pm

      Westerlyman, to paraphrase you. Actions WITH responsibility! I think that is how Libertarianism should be viewed.

  2. Voice of Reason
    January 9, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    I have made the following comment before.

    In a wild dog/wolf pack, the job of the alpha male is to protect the group from outside, but also against the aggressive males within the pack.

    A strong (not brutish) male used to serve the same purpose within the home. How many of those feral young are being raised without a male to control them, and provide a good example?

    • January 10, 2012 at 5:49 am

      Or in a home with a succession of males..?

    • Single Acts of Tyranny
      January 25, 2012 at 6:15 am

      I notice this phenomena. I take the now two-year old young master SAOT to a play centre when it is raining for his exercise.

      I am almost the only male there, but there are lots of mothers with kids. The young kids, especially the boys, tend to gravitate towards me and the boy when we are playing or climbing or laughing or whatever. You get the sense they are almost screaming “I need a male role model”

      • Voice of Reason
        January 25, 2012 at 2:41 pm

        I see the same when I teach martial arts. Lots of ADHD kids, usually brought by their indulgent mothers.

  3. January 9, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Speaking of “Charles Murray underclass,” he has a piece in this month’s New Criterion on these very parallels in the States.

    “Belmont & Fishtown: On diverging classes in the United States.”—Fishtown-7250

    • Voice of Reason
      January 25, 2012 at 2:42 pm

      As dissected quite thoroughly in the American Math Monthly and elsewhere, the problem with Murray’s work is that the analysis is simply wrong.

  4. Maaarrghk!
    January 10, 2012 at 6:21 am

    Odd about that “little snots” Mum say that he is beyond her. Has she not tried giving him a thick ear every time he behaves in that manner and telling him why he has just had a thick ear, and that every time he steps out of line, he will get another thick ear?

    Alway worked a treat with me and with every other kid that I knew.

    Thought not.

    For hidden social engineers, perhaps we should say anti-smacking nutters.

    Why should James not have any right to take that “summary action” that he mentions? It is not “assault” as the nutters want us to believe, it is discipline and punishment. It causes no harm, either immediate or lasting. We are talking about smacking for bad behavior, not beating a child sensless when a sharp word will do the trick.

    I remember being told that it takes a village to raise a child. Sadly this is now legally impossible.

  5. Pete
    January 11, 2012 at 3:22 am

    Suggest you hop over to Autonomous Mind at Seems that context might be missing here.

    • January 11, 2012 at 7:52 am

      And from AM:

      While this information does not detract from the seriousness of the incident and the apparent extreme violence meted out by a mere 10-year-old, it is clear the school runs a higher risk of violent incidents taking place due to the troubled nature of its pupils. Although it came out of special measures in 2009, the 2011 Ofsted inspection‘s key findings clearly show standards at the school have a lot of improvement to make

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