Secession Redux

A few weeks back, we were discussing secession as a solution to getting rid of the scum that rule over us. Some folk commented that with a sufficient body of like-minded voters, a block could be formed and then declare independence from the state. I am sceptical of such a move. Not least because history has shown us that states really don’t like it when people decide to leave the club. Indeed, those with the force at their fingertips can cut up pretty rough.

And, now, the evidence.

In his statement to MPs on Tuesday, Scottish Secretary Michael Moore said the government’s “clear view” was that the power to hold a referendum was “reserved” to Westminster under devolution laws passed in 1998 and that the Scottish government could not authorise a referendum on its own.

So, if our Celtic cousins north of the border decide they want out, they need to get permission from Westminster. Now, let’s suppose we form a liberal/libertarian idyll in, say, Cumbria and decide to secede, do you really think Westminster will say “okay, chaps, if that’s your bag.” Or do you think they will use any and every option open to them to prevent it?

Answers on a postage stamp, please…


3 comments for “Secession Redux

  1. January 11, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Especially Cumbria – nice piece of real estate. They’d hate to lose that. What if we went to Scunthorpe or Hull? How about Brummieland?

  2. Maaarrghk!
    January 12, 2012 at 6:27 am

    I don’t think they’d mind much if Batley tried to leave.

    On a less seriouse note, I remember reading something back in the 90’s that suggested that the American Civil War was not about slavery at all, but about the fact that 11 states wished to leave the Union, something that they had every right to do at that time.

    The same piece also stated that the southern states had their own plans to abolish slavery and that slave ownership was legal in the north right up to the end of the war.

    I would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me further on this one.

    • mister_choos
      January 13, 2012 at 10:22 am

      The South (which was largely agricultural) wanted to leave due to import tarrifs imposed to force them to buy more expensive yankee industrial goods rather than cheaper European imports, thus impoverishing them.
      Lincoln didn’t give a toss about the slaves or black people.

      Have a look on Dissecting Leftism, there are several articles somewhere on there.

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