And so it starts

Last month I posted a topic up stating that a certain trial scheduled for Liverpool involving sex crimes against underage girls was being media blocked by the judge involved with the trial. Indeed such was the intent to stop any mention of the case that various blogs and forums received notice to remove any mention from any post about the trial from the Greater Manchester Police or be summoned to face the judge on contempt of court, the reason given was that they didn’t want the trial to be prejudiced by speculation, something that those of us who’d watched the Lawrence trial unfold thought was particularly hypocritical, even though those accused were amongst the pets of the state in this case. At the beginning of this week though 2 weeks into the trial the news itself broke, on Sky, the BBC and the Daily Mail, though in all cases the M word, the I word and eventually even the term Asian was removed from the various articles, though it was fairly obvious that the men involved were of Pakistani roots and of the Islamic faith. Still, as Julia said on my blog post here… “I wonder…why now?”

There were a number of theories posited, from a preparation to ethnic cleansing of Muslims despite the fact that Muslims aren’t a race or a type, to extra laws being drafted in to protect Muslims if things were to get out of hand…


Mob of 200 youths pelt police with bricks and smash up shops ‘in anger at on-going sex grooming trial’
Police were pelted with bricks and other missiles last night as hundreds of youths went on the rampage.
Takeaways were targeted in an evening of disorder understood to be linked to the on-going trial of a suspected grooming gang at Liverpool Crown Court.
A mob of around 200 youths congregated in the centre of the Heywood area of Rochdale, Greater Manchester, last night as trouble began.
One shop-owner told how he was abused by a group of youths , who called him a ‘dirty b*stard’.
A police officer suffered bruising to his legs and arms in the disturbances.
A car belonging to a member of the public and three police vehicles were also damaged.
Greater Manchester Police has confirmed more police will be out on patrol today amid fears of a second night of violence.
A 35-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of a public order offence and police assault and a 14-year-old boy was arrested for causing danger to a public highway.
The area became swamped with police in riot vans and the mob of young people was eventually dispersed by officers at about 11pm.

First off, no this had nothing to do with the EDL, Casuals, NWI, BNP, BFP or CxF, it appears to have been just local youths, though who or what stirred them into action days after the story broke is unclear, no doubt though various leftist groups will try to blame the various nationalist groups, even perhaps the MSM will try, after all they’re still trying to link Anders Breivik to the EDL.

However it does look as if we can judge the way this is going to go as the powers that be now have an excuse to step in and give their pets even greater protection, even though all this will do is drive the anger of those communities who are not Islamic to even greater heights.

Still it’s also possible that the situation cannot be controlled any too well, there are a number of other cases coming through the system in Telford, Blackpool, Nelson and Blackburn also involving Islamic males of Pakistani origins.

As Julia also put it in a further comment… “Something about this smells to high heaven.”


I think I agree.

21 comments for “And so it starts

  1. David
    February 24, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    It’s probably going to be the ‘excuse’ they need to outlaw ‘far right’ groups – sticking to the Hegelian dialectic as usual.

  2. john in cheshire
    February 24, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    I think you are correct, this is a sign that we are going to reclaim our country.

    • February 25, 2012 at 7:10 am

      Nope, it’s a sign that the authorities are close to getting what they want – an excuse to hush up even more trials on the grounds of ‘social cohesion’.

      • February 25, 2012 at 8:08 am

        There is however a respectable argument that all defendants in alleged sex-crime cases should have anonymity.

        The call was rejected a few years ago on the grounds that publicity helped victims step forward, which is particularly helpful for on-going investigations.

        Which ever way we decide, it ought to be applied consistently regardless of race.

        • February 26, 2012 at 6:18 am

          It was a Tory election promise, wasn’t it? One they then gaily abandoned.

          • February 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm

            The BBC reported just after the election in May 2010:

            “The proposal was not in the Liberal Democrat or Conservative manifesto, but has been a Lib-Dem policy.”


            The policy was specific to rape. There are some rape charges in this case but I thought most of the charges hinged on unlawful sexual activity with girls aged 13-16? The point being, this was a ring which relied on consent to repudiate rape charges. So it may or may not have come within the definitions. We don’t know because the policy was dropped when the LDs found it was more problematical than they thought.

            One of the features of the Coalition is that the LDs have been fought back on nearly all their original proposals, which is why they are so keen to get the gay marriages through in order to salvage some shred of their dignity.

            I think they’ve miscalculated how this will play in public, but we’ll see. It doesn’t really matter; any gay votes they pick up will be hopelessly outnumbered by all the students and parents they annoyed over University fees. They are headed back to oblivion at the next election.

            The only real question is whether the Tories will suddenly develop a back-bone and deliver some Conservative policies. Again, unlikely. There is every possibility of Labour scraping back in on its tribal vote plus penitent LDs.

  3. February 24, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Yes, it’s very sinister. I saw the comments under newspaper articles referring to the trial.

    I can understand why the authorities wanted to keep it quiet but the omens are certainly not good here.

    By the way, notice how the Police point out that young children were present but rather than saying that they should be at home with their parents they just say that parents “should be aware of this”.

  4. Edward.
    February 24, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Convict them?

    Will it happen?

    And, if convicted what then?

    We do not want them here, if they are guilty – rescind nationality [if naturalised British] and send them back home – where, this type of morally indefensible behaviour, is sanctioned by both state and popular ideology.

    How can they possibly be able, or be allowed to remain in this country, haven’t they forfeited their rights to citizenship, a right which they plainly and show obvious disdain for.

    Why do we put up with this?

    Another 593,000 came in last year mainly Africans and subcontinent entrants and most if not all will be Muslim [those are inward estimations the real figure will be far higher, those leaving will be relatively accurate @ 343,000 emigrated most of these would be ‘white flight’].
    All, EU policy and it is working – white Brits – we are being cleansed, the greatest social experiment is happening on your doorstep and now.

    • Maaarrghk!
      February 28, 2012 at 6:12 am

      I think you might find that most of these men were born here. “Sending them back home” would simply mean sending them back to Oldham.

      I wonder what you would do with my son if he were to get into trouble with the law. He is half English. Would you have him “sent back home” to the Philippines even though he may never have actually been there in his life?

      If they were indeed actual immigrants I would generally agree with you.

  5. Les
    February 24, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    The media blackout is working. I mentioned the trial to my wife this afternoon and she didn’t know what I was talking about.

    • February 25, 2012 at 7:13 am

      A commenter noted on my blog that the Beeb news article about it – which originally mentioned the trial – had been edited to remove it just an hour or so after I posted the excerpt…

  6. Mudplugger
    February 24, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    The big difference now is that the term ‘media blackout’ is becoming obsolete. WE are the media now – those old, dead-tree, Fleet Street carthorses and the one-to-many broadcasters are being rapidly overtaken by the fleet-of-foot blogworld, with its unstoppable many-to-many matrix.

    The fact that we all knew about this Liverpool trial long before the MSM felt obliged to cover it, albeit in their PC manner, indicates the power of the new information world. Some of us may handle the knowledge with moderation but others will feel the need to respond more directly, hence the first flowerings of retaliation now appearing around Rochdale.

    Similar to the outbreak of suspected-paedophile-bashing a few years ago, there is a chance that, whenever any trial of Asian teen-groomers takes place (and there should be many), it will become the norm for the source area to become a target. Indefensible vigilantism perhaps, but the powers-that-be have to ask themselves whether they are themselves culpable for allowing the situation to go on for so long, with their knowledge, before becoming embarrassed enough to take any action.

    Knowing that such trials can no longer be hidden away and that any trial will result in local civil disturbance may finally cause the authorities to address the root-causes (a Good Thing) or to avoid bringing any future trials (a Bad Thing).

    I worry that they will take the wimps’ route and leave us with a Very Bad Thing to continue unabated – and all because we found out what they didn’t want us to know.

  7. Monty
    February 25, 2012 at 12:05 am

    Can’t help noticing how it has all gone jolly quiet again, despite the exposure in the mainstream media of the past day or so.

    • February 25, 2012 at 7:11 am

      The ‘Mail’ has had a highlight (if the graphic details salaciously printed can be called such) every day.

  8. barry corcoran
    February 25, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Kris Donald was a white teenage boy who was tortured and murdered by a gang of Asian men, but where was the massive publicity such as that given to the Stephen Lawrence case? At first the BBC didn’t even report it, eventually they were forced to do so, but only for a few days.

    Where were the memorial services attended by politicians and and senior police officers as there were in the Stephen Lawrence case?

    Was the loss of Kris’s life any less tragic that that of Stephen?

    No, there is serious political correcting of news items in the UK – don’t be fooled into believing that all are treated equally – they’re not.

    • David
      February 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm

      Isn’t there an ongoing collection to fund a memorial for Kriss? If not then there should be.

  9. February 25, 2012 at 6:18 am

    Get yourself a (free, minimal personal data) account on

    When you have access, choose Hearings/Crown Courts (floats when Hearings hovered over, then Archives, enter for Case Number T20117520, then select Liverpool Crown Court and search. It confirms what all who knew about the gagging order believed. Not good.

    • February 25, 2012 at 7:15 am

      No longer, it seems, is it the case that justice must be seen to be done…

  10. Lickyalips
    February 25, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Firstly, ‘Demos’, means demonstrations, in the popular grass roots


    The other ‘Demos’ is the Greek word, pronounced ‘day-moss’, meaning
    essentially ‘the people’. Loosely translated, the word ‘deme’ means village,the smallest unit of the Athenian state. A voting precinct.


    Now, concerning the first ‘Demos’, the enemy and its operatives say they don’t want people coming in from outside “their” area in order to disrupt “community cohesion”.

    Yet they imported millions of third world voters into ‘our’ areas for exactly that reason.

    They say its now all about ‘community cohesion’.

    Yet we had community cohesion, nationally and locally, before they imported millions of third world colonisers into our cohesive communities in order to destroy them.

    Simple really, isn’t it.

    Words. New definitions. The enemy inversion tactics. The protocols of the ‘new order’.

    Something to think about. It invites essential questions too.

    It has come to our attention that the EDL leadership have, in respect of the first Demos above, announced that they want nothing to do with racial nationalists or racial matters. Strange that, since the overwhelming number of their members and supporters are without question, and by default in consideration of the above and their own experiences, racially aware nationalists who believe firmly in the principles of, and fundamental reasons for racial, as distinct from civic nationalism which is multiculturalism, the agenda and politics of the enemies of the true British Folk. They know what is, though not necessarily who are, the real enemy of
    the British Folk.
    So what are the EDL leaders up to by making such announcements?
    It’s a question that won’t go away, and it needs answering.

  11. sovereigntea
    February 27, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Re the media response to the “Islamic rapists” the timing seems mighty convenient. Both in terms of providing cover for the other exposed abusers entrenched in the establishment and providing fuel for the much desired anti Islamic sentiment in the media. Having said that there are instances of asian appearing men driving round kidnapping and grooming young women. My friends son prevented one such snatch occurring in Worcester as the girl was being dragged through the window of the car.

    The media go to town on reporting the “Islamic” paedophilia but fail to give space to the Alex Salmond / Hollie Greig / Robert Green débâcle. Which still fails to be reported in the mainstream media.

    Cameron & pals apparently wish to begin WWIII or at least conquer all Islamic nations and dehumanising the enemy prior to hostilities is a very old established tactic.

    It seems that there is a concerted effort to manufacture the footsoldiers of the cultural revolution. The UAF and EDL in part serving that purpose. To be pitted against one another or employed as useful idiots serving a broader political purpose.

    It also suits the consensus manipulators to have the left right constructs either can be “extremist” labels to be attached when convenient to undesirable dissenters. Whether associated or not.

    Anyone thus tainted with right or left wing extremism even unfounded or by tenuous association can then be attacked in the media or silenced via censorship under that pretext, “for the public good”.

    The wider public of course largely shies away from any kind of “extremism” as presented in the MSM media so once the publicity machine is in action dissent can be associated with the far ends of L or R and thus brushed off as the deranged efforts of “extremists”. thus stifling the growth of any genuine grass roots political movement.

    This of course will be a far more effective solution if the CP front MST get their way and are granted powers of censorship over on / off line media.

    I believe an example this methodology is the recent deployment of UAF / Amnesty student activists apparently in conjunction with the local MP in Swansea to protest outside the Brian Gerrish talk on child abuse.

    Two purposes – intimidation – connecting albeit falsely BG with far right “extremism”. The latter a badge attached to be kept in the bank with a view to shutting down dissent via media means when politically convenient.

    Such affirmative action keeps the activists occupied and reinforces a sense of belonging perpetuating the cycle.

    A 1967 educational experiment “the third wave” seems very close to the cult like psychological foundations of such activist organisations. There is even mention of “community”. A 1981 dramatisation of this is available on google video (The Wave).

    Children of The Wave (Part 1)

    In April 1967 a world history teacher named Ron Jones, conducted an experiment where he recruited a number of sophomore students into a political movement called, The Third Wave. It took place at Cubberly High School in Palo Alto, California. He reported the results in a 1972 articled called, The Third Wave. The event gained such publicity that it sparked the creation of an Emmy Award winning movie in 1984, entitled, The Wave, by Norman Lear. It began when the class was studying the Nazi atrocities which occurred during World War II, & one student asked why everyone just went along with it. Because the class was ahead of schedule, Mr. Jones decided to conduct an experiment.

  12. Greg Tingey
    February 27, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    We have been here before
    A religious grouping, with a high-profile international leader decided to attack the organisation and religious beliefs (or none) of the English state (and others).
    This grouping managed to kill three reigning monarchs/heads of state, and numerous attacks were made on “us”.
    The name of the grouping?
    The Roman Catholic CHurch.

    The backlash, even by the standards of the 16th/17th Centuries was harsh, and quite few innocent people were killed.

    If islam is unlucky, exactly the same thing will happen.
    But, do the “sharia” entusiasts realise or care that this can be repeated?
    No, because like the RC idiots, they have “god” on their side.

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