And So…

…The anti-smoking zealots with their junk science have claimed another scalp. We watched the Health secretary making entirely unsubstantiated assertions on the television about young people taking up smoking as a consequence of seeing cigarette packs. The hysterical, puritanical temperance movement marches inexorably forward, having the hard of thinking believe its relentless propaganda that a few whiffs of smoke from a burning leaf is so dangerous that mustard gas would appear benign in comparison. Indeed, the dreadful Arnott tells us that there is no safe exposure level to second-hand cigarette smoke. This is observable nonsense to anyone who cares to actually do any observing –  or has at the very least studied O-level chemistry.

When I was a child, I was exposed to cigarette smoke every time we visited my grandparents –  one of whom lived until she was ninety-three despite being a lifelong smoker. As a teenager I worked my way though college in a busy city pub –  in those days that meant a semi-permanent fug of fag smoke. Okay, sure, it was a bit unpleasant the following day having my clothing smelling like a discarded ash tray, but I put them in the wash and that problem was solved. I live with a smoker. So, by now, I should be long dead, yet I am in perfect health.

No safe exposure? Bullshit with knobs on. Equally bullshitty is the assertion being peddled by the anti-smoking nutters that hiding tobacco out of site will, somehow, stop people taking it up. Look, pornography has flourished for pretty much forever, despite much of it being kept under wraps (although the interwebs has changed the dynamics somewhat). The more you make something hidden, the more attractive it becomes –  the mystery adding to the spice of something forbidden. It’s human nature. Good god, but the writers of Genesis understood that one back in the bronze age.

Not to mention absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever to support the bizarre assertions being made. This is about control, nothing more, nothing less –  the fear experienced by the puritans that some of us, somewhere might be enjoying ourselves and it must be stopped and stopped now. Pure control by government funded fake charities who then lobby government to impose their warped will on the rest of us. Make no mistake, what happens today for tobacco will be rolled out to other verboten products tomorrow. Already we have seen the pattern used on alcohol, so it will be for fats, Big Macs, salt, fizzy drinks, sugar and pretty much anything that just might give someone pleasure.

Pleasure, we can’t be having that, now, can we? These people are evil, make no mistake about it.

Cross posted from Longrider

17 comments for “And So…

  1. ivan
    April 7, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    The big question that all the anti smoking people steer away from – are they prepared to pay in excess of £100 per week extra tax to make up the tax shortfall, or do without the NHS?

    • David A. Evans
      April 7, 2012 at 2:57 pm

      Actually, they’ve been conned into believing that smokers are a liability on the health service.

      Trying to point out that the tax take is way in excess of any burden is futile, they won’t believe you even if you trot out the figures complete with linkies.

      • April 7, 2012 at 3:35 pm

        Indeed. The propaganda has been so successful, people really do believe that 2+2=5

        • April 7, 2012 at 4:35 pm

          Well, we used to have a Chancellor who believed that!

          Some say we still do…

      • ivan
        April 7, 2012 at 6:21 pm

        How true. I made the same comment to the article in the Daily Fail and it didn’t make it past the censors.

  2. john in cheshire
    April 7, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    The day that pub landlords are allowed to decide if they will permit smoking or not, is the day that I will perceive we are turning back towards the light (unintentional pun). I’d love to think it will happen before I die. Otherwise, there’s no point in living in the socialist hellhole that has been created in our wonderful country. Lovely country, shame about the people, kind of thing.

    • cdbro
      April 7, 2012 at 9:09 pm

      I may not have that many years left and I despair.

      • Tattyfalarr
        April 8, 2012 at 2:03 pm

        The day that pub landlords are allowed to decide if they will permit smoking or not

        They’ve had that choice since Day 1 of the ban. Pub landlords were perfectly placed to argue the toss and suggest valid compromise…and there were some that tried… but the majority chose not to.

        They chose not and their businesses are dying a slow death…ho hum. 😐

        • Mudplugger
          April 8, 2012 at 9:34 pm

          The hospitality industry was trapped by a Faustian pact – they had secretly agreed not to oppose the Smoking Ban in exchange for getting 24-hour opening the year before.

          The badly misjudged their natural customer base, figuring that loyal smokers would still come, with yet more customers late at night. Big fail. Smokers stayed away in droves, no new customers came, pubs failed and closed. Didn’t take a genius to see that coming. They have got what they deserve.

          The brewers and distillers don’t care – they move their product so much easier through volume supermarkets with none of the aggravation of pub-outlets. The Pubcos are really just property companies, ready to convert their pub-stock into residential or whatever as soon as the market is right to make their gains.

          Our treasured pub culture is gone, never to return, but it’s no-one’s fault but their own.

          • David A. Evans
            April 8, 2012 at 11:18 pm

            Agree and disagree.
            Individual licensees had a lot to lose because of changes in the licensing laws.
            Pubcos as you rightly say are nothing more than property companies. BBPA is a subsidiary of the pubcos.
            It’s all bullshit and unfortunately a lost war, perhaps that should be battle because the wars are still ongoing, viz alcohol limits, units etc..

  3. April 8, 2012 at 1:28 am

    This whole plain packaging / hidden display schemozzle won’t stop one kid from, or not, from taking up smoking. Peer pressure might, but when the anti-smokers are so demonstrably a bunch of po-faced anti-fun puritan prohibitionists, any peer pressure against smoking is weak indeed.

    • April 8, 2012 at 7:19 am

      It’s enough to make me take it up!

      • Tattyfalarr
        April 8, 2012 at 2:06 pm

        They cannot stop children from killing each other, they cannot make them sit down at a desk…christ on a bike, , they cannot even make the older ones pull their pants up or put their tits away.

        What makes them think they can stop them doing Anything…never mind smoking. 😐

        • David A. Evans
          April 8, 2012 at 11:31 pm

          I got the, “You shouldn’t smoke in front of me”, lecture from my grandson. To which he got the WHO report which has the ONLY statistically significant result which is…
          Children brought up in a smokers environment are LESS likely to develop lung cancer.
          He also got the fact that the ONLY trace that can be put down to cigarette smoke is nicotine because all the other, carcinogens are so prevalent that you can’t detect the SHS.
          Shut him up for now.

          • Tattyfalarr
            April 10, 2012 at 11:34 am

            The simple answer is “stand behind me then” 😉

  4. April 10, 2012 at 11:17 am

    This is about control, nothing more, nothing less – the fear experienced by the puritans that some of us, somewhere might be enjoying ourselves and it must be stopped and stopped now.

    Problem is how to stop this PCism?

  5. April 10, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    I took up smoking to get laid. She smoked, I didn’t, and getting into her knickers seemed worth the price of a packet of fags. My interest in the design of Silk Cuts packaging was vastly less than my designs on something that memory insists might have been packaged in silk but being realistic was more likely to be cotton and man made fibres from C&A. Still, I doubt I was the only one and there are probably young smokers taking it up today with similar hopes, so I imagine that once Lansley realises this it’ll be burqas all round for the ladies – plain, of course, except for one big, scary health warning on the front at chest height and one each front and back just below belt level.

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