My God, the BBC admit it…

I blogged yesterday on my own site about the conclusion of the trial in Manchester and the conviction of those men for grooming underage girls for sexual purposes. I also mentioned that the BBC were very coy about the identity of the men involved, though admittedly the names and the pictures were a dead giveaway.
Yet amazingly today on the BBC website there is a candid disclosure that the men aren’t “Asians” (a massive slur on all Asians who do not appear to be involved in this activity)


The Chief Constable of Greater Manchester has said more arrests are likely in connection with a child sexual grooming ring in Heywood.
Peter Fahy said he hoped more victims of sexual abuse will come forward after nine men were jailed on Tuesday.
The men, from Rochdale and Oldham, who exploited girls as young as 13 were given sentences from four to 19 years.
Five girls gave evidence, but police believe there may have been up to 47 victims.
The nine defendants, eight of Pakistani origin and one from Afghanistan and aged between 24 and 59, were found guilty of offences including rape and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child.
Mr Fahy said there had been “a number of arrests” in other sexual abuse cases and there were “a number of other trials pending”.

For the first time the BBC have actually admitted which community these men are from, they’ve even noted that there are more ongoing trial and more arrests likely, the implication being that these men will also be from the same community (they are, it’s no secret out here in internet land you can even find out the name of the mane who cannot be named for legal reasons if you go looking)
Yet this admission also has the hallmarks of a BBC attempt to focus attention away from the activities of other extremist elements within the Islamic community.

Still, it’s unusual for the BBC to even admit there is a problem within a specific community, even today most of the MSM were determined that these men were “Asians” truth having little to do with actual reporting. There are still ongoing trials in Liverpool, Oxford and Telford, these men are apparently “Asians” too.

Unless or until we get “honest” reporting of all the facts in this country, rather than what the media/government think we ought to know, this sort of thing will fester in the background and when it does break the results will be far more extreme than had it been openly dealt with in the first place. Tarring an entire continent for a crime was not a good start.

10 comments for “My God, the BBC admit it…

  1. Watchman
    May 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    The most interesting aspect of all of this is that the first person to break through the barriers of political correctness around this case and actually do the correct thing was the crown prosecutor for the north west, one Nazir Afzal, who, going purely on his name (never really a sane move…) may well also be ‘Asian’ – but is clearly at least capable of doing the right thing. If the BBC were really worried about presenting the Pakistani community in a bad light (and it should be in all fairness noted that there is no single ‘Pakistani’ community either – most communities are based round one ethnic group or even village) why not highlight this convenient piece of information.

    I think this is less concerns about being inflamatory, and more incultured refusal to upset these communities – the same as meant this case was not investigated or prosecuted when it should have been.

  2. Single Acts of Tyranny
    May 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Keith Vaz said it was wrong to blame one community, ethnic group or religion for this.

    So stop it you naughty thought criminal!

  3. Johnnydub
    May 10, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    As the coppers proved by their actions, in the ACPO/Common Purpose/BBC world it’s more important to avoid the potential perception of racism than to stop girls getting sexually abused…


  4. john in cheshire
    May 10, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    bbc might have mentioned the P-word, but they still can’t bring themselves to mention the religion of peace. But then neither can the other main news broadcasters. And if I was Hindu, Sikh or Chinese, then I’d be making strong and persistent complaints about the use of the word Asian in connection with these muslim animals.

  5. Jeff Wood
    May 10, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    John makes the point I came down here to make.

    If I were Chinese, Indian,,Malayan or whatever, I would be denouncing the use of “Asian” as Racist! and making heads explode.

  6. Tarka the Rotter
    May 10, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Just been listening to the Question Time panel answer questions on this case – talk about contortions – Peter Oborne and Caroline Spelman blamed the victims…all of them said it has nothing to do with race and that the gang were just evil men preying on vulnerable children…all very PC of course – ‘Why were these girls willing to surrender their innocence for a bag of crisps…’ said Peter Oborne. SWITCHED OFF IN DISGUST…

    • May 11, 2012 at 12:04 am

      My telly also nearly ended up down the end of the garden.

      Oborne seemed like a drunk old bear who didn’t really understand anything, having been landed with a haymaker from Mary Beard early on. Beard meant well but made the same mistake as Oborne in her turn; she simply didn’t have enough facts to hand to pass an opinion and tried to make it about something else, retreating in to a ‘we are all ignorant’ stance. No Mary, some of us have collected the basic facts which are available.

      Dimbleby put in a credible referee job for once in his life, realizing with horror that his panel were poorly briefed. Spelman – just about the last person who should be talking about the way children can be gulled in to doing stupid things since her own has just been junking up and got caught at it – was an embarrassment. She failed to explain to someone in the audience why you can’t lock up 13 year old girls.

      The audience was divided, as you might expect. Half of it wanted to make it clear that race certainly had something to do with it, the other half had their fingers in their ears going lalala can’t hear you.

      Oakshott mumbled something vaguely relevant and managed to call out the stupid vicar in the audience who had blamed the victims and then claimed he hadn’t, or he’d been misunderstood. No dear, we understood clearly that you’ve got no bloody idea despite claiming to work with families. It’s handy-flappy loons like this prelate who keep allowing bent vicars the comfort that somehow they’re the ones who have been seduced and that it’s all the fault of the choirboys.

      The joker in the pack was the unequivocal Chris Bryant who, to give him due credit, also did a pretty good job when he was in charge of banging heads together on the matter of forced marriages. He made it clear this was a crime and that people who asked if race – or a proxy for it or something we dare not name – was a factor were not to be dismissed as racists.

      We can all see it; why can’t we say it. There is a common factor and while it is not race as such, it is a cultural norm which is identified with a subset of a racial group.

      Why can’t can’t Chris Bryant be sane all the time. Why can’t panelists say “I’m sorry, I’m not up to saying anything useful on this question. Why not ask someone who might be able to throw some light on the matter?”

      • Wolfie
        May 11, 2012 at 9:38 pm

        I’ve travelled extensively in the east (in my bachelor days).

        It is about race, but not exclusive to Pakistanis. They have only stood out because they tend to operate in gangs, which make them more visible and that they are not very bright which means the plod can catch them.

        I remember when trekking in the Himalaya being holed up in a shack during a gold-almighty hailstorm with a pretty 26 year old local girl who spoke reasonable English. After about 20 minutes she told me, “I’m so glad you’re white, if I was stuck here with a local boy I would have been forced to have sex with him by now”.

        The world is a harsh place for women, the left have invited it in.

    • Single Acts of Tyranny
      May 11, 2012 at 6:03 am

      I long since gave up on QT, just predictable “line to take” nonsense.

      And Spelman, she who can’t apparently understand that expenses for your office staff can’t be paid to your nanny (sic) or the fact sonny is a drugs cheat but we can’t have any free press or anything so lets get an injunction etc.

      Fit and proper person? Competent person?

  7. Bigal
    May 12, 2012 at 10:17 am

    I have travelled widely in India and a few years ago whilst having a beer with a few Calcuttans muslim, hindu and christian the asked me in all seriousness what is it like in London if you want a girl do you just take her. I am sorry but these blokes were normal and reasonably well educated and still had a view likethat.

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