Support our armed forces

Don’t forget these either:
Afghan Heroes

The comments say more than I ever could:

# Thank you very much – all of you …

But really, speaking as a recently retired soldier, we are fine. We did what we did because that was our calling. To protect the weak, to stand up for what is right and to do the bidding of our democratically elected government is our lot. We live by a code, our core values, in no particular order: Courage both physical and moral, selfless commitment, loyalty, repect for others, integrity and discipline.

Serving and retired service personnel of all ranks are bonded by our core values. It is a shame that society in general does not share them. If it did, there would be no need for this debate and no need for the report. Rest easy all of you – we will continue to look after you no matter what you think of us. Quite a bargain when you think about it – and you should think about it.

Amen. And this:

# With the amount of information available nowadays the public know enough to determine themselves whether they consider wars or military interventions are just or not. I feel the problem is our forces have been used for political ends rather than defending our country and the attitudes are towards the politicians and senior ranks rather than those who have to carry out the work. Unfortunately people dont differentiate and have a hard time accepting people participating in and being prepared to participate in by joining up, what many believe to be unjust and unnecessary actions.

… and:

# It’s not so much disrespect for the armed forces as disrespect for the conflicts they have been engaged in. Respect comes from fighting just wars not unjust conflicts. Blame the politicians.

That’s so. There is a compatibility between respect for a fighting man who defends us and disrespect for the corrupt politicians who send him where they shouldn’t. There’s no cognitive dissonance in supporting our troops to the hilt, putting money in the Help for Heroes tin, buying a man in uniform a beer, standing and cheering when our troops pass by … and being utterly opposed to wars, as defined by the corrupt Them politicians.

The issue today is that the enemy is already inside the country and working to destroy from within. Sadly, we have civil war, not external war. The enemy within knows full well that any of us will go down and enlist if we’re threatened by, say, the Germans again. Of course we would – a clearly defined enemy and clearly defined threat.

The trouble is that this threat now is political and people are not so good at seeing that, at defining it.

# This comes from the malign influence of the politically correct left which despises anything to do with the UK.
The liberal left is in fact an arrogant dictatorial group of ideologues who despise freedom and patriotism but are very happy to tell us we should look after anyone who wants to come into this country, opposes our military and the more power the UK can give to the obscene ECHR and EU the better.

So now it is PC to be anti our military. Absolutely awful and anyone who gives anything less than full support to them should be ashamed of themselves and boycotted if they are known.


14 comments for “Support our armed forces

  1. john in cheshire
    May 13, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    My sentiments entirely. And I give money to Help for Heroes, and Combat Stress, and The Salvation Army and The Barnabas Fund. And several other organisations and blogs. But, with limited resources, it’s a case of giving a little to the many. What I won’t do is give money to fake charities such as the WWF and Greenpeace. One day, our servicemen will be called upon to defend us in our own land against the invaders and their quisling enablers. I for one pray that if confronted by an armed man, he is a soldier rather than a policeman. A soldier has been trained to shoot only when necessary and the policeman appears to have been trained to shoot, and explain away the death and or injury by other means.

    • May 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm

      Wouldn’t it be nice if governments and supra-nationals gave what they give to groups like WWF and Greenpeace to the service personnel sent away on peacekeeping missions and ‘peacekeeping missions’ instead?

  2. Chick
    May 13, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Kill them what invade your country

  3. Voice of Reason
    May 13, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Having grown up in significant poverty while my father served in the British Army (and got crippled for 3 years as a result), I believe I’ve done my bit.

    I am curious why John refers to WWF as a ‘fake charity’, since they do a lot of educational and scientific studies, as well as buying up land and supporting locals to preserve habitats for endangered species. Or perhaps you were talking about the World Wrestling Federation?

    • May 14, 2012 at 6:09 am

      I may be mistaken but I suspect John is referring to the fact that the act of charity is supposed to involve voluntary donation while the WWF is (I think) one of those charities that these days gets a significant proportion of its income involuntarily donated by taxpayers via their governments. It’s not about whether they do good work so much as whether the money they do it with was given voluntarily.

      • Voice of Reason
        May 14, 2012 at 1:48 pm

        I didn’t know that. I donate to them sometimes, but seriously dislike forced donations. That’s why I won’t give money to United Way here.

    • nemesis
      May 14, 2012 at 5:26 pm
    • nemesis
      May 14, 2012 at 5:28 pm
    • sovereigntea
      May 15, 2012 at 5:42 pm

      WWF speciality greenwashing environmental destruction for corporate gain.

      Google for the German documentary ‘The Silence of the Pandas’, which exposed WWF’s close ties with corporations, including Monsanto. The film has caused shockwaves in Germany and many donors have reportedly withdrawn their support for WWF.

      • sovereigntea
        May 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm

        The World Wildlife Fund has released a report which calls for all carbon emissions to be banned by 2050 and for the entire human population to live in a state of poverty in the name of preserving rare species and saving the planet.
        The WWF was founded by former Nazi and Bilderberg Group kingpin Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands

  4. richard
    May 13, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    No. I like soldiers because I was one but if someone can explain the need for constant warfare I’d like to hear it.

    • Voice of Reason
      May 14, 2012 at 1:04 am

      I believe that the need is to keep the people from thinking about their own countries. Goering said something to that effect, as did Orwell in ‘1984’.

      • sovereigntea
        May 15, 2012 at 5:49 pm

        War is about arms sales and the creation of debt to the central banks. Once a pliant regime is installed. Their cohorts then get to grab the resources at a discount and clean up on contracts rebuilding the victim nation.

        The same financial terrorists also control the politicians who “make the decision” to go to war.

        Puppet Blair and Iraq is a perfect example.

  5. May 16, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Thank you for those.

    To Nemesis – this is what comes of maintaining two websites and apologies for the delayed posting of your comments. We seem to have a hot anti-spam system going here at the moment, courtesy of our techie, as a result of certain unpleasantries not so long ago. Our regulars tended to get caught up in that too and their comments found themselves moderated.

    We think we’ve fixed that but yours, Nemesis, had urls and that’s apparently what the anti-spam took exception to. i just have to remain more vigilant myself.

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