Ticking like on facebook does not constitute a link.

It’s immensely frustrating at times dealing with the ongoing campaign to vilify the EDL in the MSM. Not that I particularly expect balanced reporting and no, I’m not pretending that the EDL are plaster saints either. Still the attempts to somehow link the EDL to the activities of Anders Breivik is particularly irritating.

Mail.

A British dad has been arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred after praising mass murderer Anders Breivik on Facebook, it emerged today.
Philip Horn, 44, allegedly said on the social networking site that he ‘takes his hat off’ to the infamous gunman.
Horn, a father-of-three, from Gillingham, was arrested by Kent Police on Thursday afternoon and is currently being held in custody.
Horn, who is reported to have links with the English Defence League, is also alleged to have publicly supported Breivik’s crusade to ‘protect his country from Muslims’.
The unemployed builder from Gillingham, Kent, is said to have posted a message saying: ‘Well done Anders Breivik. I take my hat off to you sir.
‘You proved you were not insane and that you are just one of many like myself who wish their country to return to the way it was before it was invaded by the Muslim population. Respect to you.’
He also said:
‘I am a racist to a certain extent. Of course it’s wrong to kill children, but if he had to do it that way to get his point across, so be it.’
A Kent Police spokesman said: ‘During the afternoon of Thursday, August 30 a 45-year-old man from Gillingham was arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred.

First Horn is not an official member of the EDL whose mission statement can be viewed here and views on Breivik here. That’s not to say that individual members have different views, but by and large the consensus in the EDL is that Breivik despite the claims of the Norwegian judicial system is a madman, though the suspicion also is that somehow if he were to be declared mad then ‘cured’ they’d be obliged to release him either that or by declaring him ‘sane’ he’s tarnishing the entire ‘far right’ by his actions (whoever they might be). These days most nationalist groups are still being labelled ‘far right’ by the media despite their stated aims and views, ‘far right’ being media and lefty speak for racist no matter how multicultural such organisations tend to be (and the EDL has no colour bar or religious bar on membership).

What I suspect is that Horn has simply ticked ‘like’ to the EDL facebook page on his facebook page and this is somehow being taken that he has links to the EDL, I cannot prove this, but trust me on this, there has been no praise for Breivik on the official EDL site or its forum. Nor so far as I can tell, had Horn been involved in the demo side of things either.

As for his arrest, from what I can see he hasn’t said anything racist (Muslims not being a race no matter how hard the powers that be try to enforce this) What he said was unpleasant, possibly provoking (to certain groups) but not racist. So I’m a bit amused that he’s been arrested for inciting racial hatred, unless the police are somehow trying to link it to hating Norwegians.

No, Horn for all his unpleasant views, for all his claims to be a racist to a certain extent, as far as I can tell has not posted anything racist, nor anything to justify arresting him, you can read far worse things on facebook day in day out than a tribute to Anders Breivik.

Again someone has posted something the powers that be do not like and has been arrested for it, you may not like what Horn has said, but it does not warrant an arrest, censure perhaps, but not imprisonment.

Sadly he’s not the first nor I suspect the last to run into the UK’s two tier justice system…

10 comments for “Ticking like on facebook does not constitute a link.

  1. September 1, 2012 at 7:00 am

    “Philip Horn, 44, allegedly said on the social networking site that he ‘takes his hat off’ to the infamous gunman.”

    I guess anyone who repeats that old quote about Guy Fawkes being ‘the only man to enter Parliament with honest intentions’ anywhere on the web can expect to have their collar felt, can they?

    My, those ‘dreadful cuts to frontline policing’ are biting so hard…

  2. September 1, 2012 at 7:03 am

    Indeed. Even if they did try to claim it was racist against Norwegians, we are the same race as them…

    So what if his statements are hateful? Better out in the open where they can be seen and challenged than lurking in the dark, which it the inevitable outcome of such arrests and convictions. They won’t stop people thinking such thoughts, they will merely create the new Samizdat.

    • September 2, 2012 at 5:21 am

      Better out in the open where they can be seen and challenged than lurking in the dark

      Exactly.

  3. September 1, 2012 at 8:18 am

    And are we now going to see anyone arrested who expresses a degree of admiration for terrorist murders carried out by the IRA and the PLO? Somehow I don’t think so…

  4. cuffleyburgers
    September 1, 2012 at 11:17 am

    He doesn’t seem actually to have done much incitement either, he has expressed some loathsome opinions, but he hasn’t said “come on lads let’s go and kill some towleheads, and that way we can earn a night in the pub with some slappers” for example (being an anglicised equivalent of the inducements given to jihadists, so we’re told.

    So, Yes, a clear case of being arrested for holding and expressing uncomfortable opinions.

  5. September 1, 2012 at 11:49 am

    You would normally think that being racist means being anti some other colour of skin. It isn’t. Racism has been re-defined (by the UN and so copied by other progressives) as being anti some other colour or nationality or descent or ethnicity or race. So according to those who do their best to take offense at anything being racist can quite easily include religion especially if that religion is 99.9% of one race, colour, ethnicity or nationality.

    • September 1, 2012 at 4:30 pm

      Well, racism has been defined with in the English legal system as any act which anyone deems to be racist.

      God are we fucked.

      • September 1, 2012 at 5:11 pm

        Even if they are not directly affected themselves.

  6. Paul
    September 1, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    This is really quite worrying now. It feels like we are descending into orwell’s dystopia… And fast! What would happen if someone said ‘I take my hat off to Philip Horn’? Does that mean that you gt a visit from plod?

    • David A. Evans
      September 4, 2012 at 6:59 am

      What would happen if someone said ‘I take my hat off to Philip Horn’?

      Let us know. 😆

      DaveE.

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