Open letter to Cameron

This is a two part post. The first is a reaction from a reader to Cameron’s latest inanity and double-speak. The second will come some hours later.

From Rifleman 1853:

I’ve got to hand it to you, Cameron. You’ve packed more blatant lies into this one article than I would have believed possible.

We can quit the EU and still trade with EU member states, in exactly the same way as China or the US; any American or Chinese company which sells to the the EU just has to ensure their product meets EU standards – job done.

Does that mean that America and China are “ruled by faxes from Brussels bureaucrats”? No, it bloody well doesn’t, Cameron – so quit trying to bullshit us.

Leaving the EU also means that every British company which doesn’t have dealings with other member states in the EU can totally ignore every EU law and regulation. And, Cameron, as I sure you know full well, that covers about 80% of British companies!

As it is, those 80% of British companies ARE currently “ruled by faxes from Brussels bureaucrats”, aren’t they? With all the cost and timewasting that involves, all of which cuts into their profits. Why should car hire firms, local garages, pubs, tourist attractions, cinemas, record companies, department stores, food production companies, bakeries, animal feed merchants, etc, etc, etc, all be hamstrung by these damn fool regulations – just because YOU think we’re better off in the EU, and are too bloody arrogant to even give us a say in the matter?

You imply that we are currently “writing the rules of the market”. Go on, then, liar – tell us about ONE example where we have had any effective influence. Give us ONE example of where you have “fought Britain’s corner”, or “stood up for Britain”, and made any significant difference.

But there isn’t one you can quote, is there? Otherwise you’d have been shouting it from the rooftops! That’s why the best you can come up with is waffle, flannel, and meaningless fast chat – and, of course, one damn lie after another.

“Mr Cameron said the “political mood in Britain is quite settled behind really quite significant reform in terms of Britain’s relationship with the European Union”.”

Right, so the political elite have made up their minds what’s best for us, and we plebs and peasants can just shut up and do what we’re told – and don’t forget to tug your forelock as they zoom past in their chauffeur-driven Jags that you paid for, either.

I remember, all too well, the number of posters on here before the last election who were haranguing us to “Hold your nose, and vote for Cameron, or you’ll split the Tory vote and let Labour back in! Get him into Downing Street, and he’ll revert to his true Tory instincts!”

My attitude was that voting for you was voting for Tony Blair Mk II – and you’ve proved me right. It isn’t UKIP, or UKIP voters, who’ve split the Tory vote – it’s you.

So, Cameron – how do you think those who told us to “hold our noses” feel now, hmm? Do you think they’ll feel that their loyalty to you has been richly rewarded? I think many of them feel they’ve been had for mugs – and I doubt they’ll either forgive or forget for a very long time.

So why am I addressing my post to you, Cameron? Because I’m damn sure that your party hacks at HQ are going through the comments on this and many other websites, to see how this article is being received by the great unwashed.

Enjoy!! And have a nice day!

14 comments for “Open letter to Cameron

  1. graham wood
    December 11, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Rifleman 1853: Despite your age Mr Rifleman you are still bang on target and shooting well. I could’nt have put it better myself.

    Its the sort of language that Cameron and his ‘Phile MPs need to hear – and the message is soooooo clear. More!

  2. Ripper
    December 11, 2012 at 9:34 am

    Certainly it hits the spot, but really, what use is it? I doubt very much that Cameron has been issued with a copy of this. And if he had it would go straight to the trash can.

    Great words, but they need saying to Cameron, not the readers here. And like he’d take any notice if you did.

    • December 11, 2012 at 9:45 am

      We need to spread it far and wide then…

      I’ve linked it over at my place – thread title ‘Cameron = Liar’ 😉

    • December 11, 2012 at 10:47 am

      Ripper, I do hear you but remember this was in the Telegraph and it is monitored, like all publications, to gauge the level of opposition. OoL is a minor factor except a few thousand readers a day at least warrants it being monitored by minor minions and so the message does get through if enough say it.

      Barman linked to it, someone else might and that’s how it goes. We can only do what we do.

      Before the last GE, there was a group, Albion Alliance, which targetted PPCs and asked them to pledge to support direct democracy. OK, Norman Tebbit dismissed it as having “no traction” and Peter Hain vilified it at the Welsh Conference as “dangerously right wing”.

      Now no one up there will remember the name but they will remember the sentiments and many others have come in on this. I do believe it must be done, we must keep going because if we fall silent, then that is precisely what it’s all about – let us just talk ourselves out and retire, exhausted.

      But if they know we have no intention of doing that, retiring exhausted, then it becomes a slightly different ball game. Sure they’ll ignore all of us from the blogs to the Telegraph with disdain but they still know we’re here, watching, and they have shown signs of being careful.

  3. john in cheshire
    December 11, 2012 at 10:03 am

    Until politicans are afraid of us, the normal people of this land, they will not change their attitudes and behaviour. And, even though the words of this article are true and need to be said over and again, words alone are not going to help us.

  4. Martin
    December 11, 2012 at 10:39 am

    There laughing at us because their brutes ( the pigs ) can keep us at bay .
    Today they’re looking at the violence in northern Ireland . Why ? To check
    if their pig defences are adequate .

  5. graham wood
    December 11, 2012 at 10:40 am

    John, “Until politicans are afraid of us, the normal people of this land, they will not change their attitudes and behaviour.”
    Much truth in that as we all know, Equally we could also say – “until they are afraid of the truth”. It is as the truth about the EU percolates out, all too slowly of course, that it will dawn on our bovine political class that their electoral hopes will fade.

    That will wonderfully concentrate the mind, when they realise their seats, comfortable life-style, inflated salaries in the Westminster bubble, pensions, and prospects are diminishing by the day. 😆

    • Derek
      December 11, 2012 at 10:58 am

      Politicians will only become afraid of us when we stop blindly voting for the same party year after year. The thing that a politician really fears is being voted out of office.

      “None of the above”, or a spoilt ballot paper does not worry them, in fact they like it, as it is not a vote against them. It is almost a vote of confidence in them, as the voter is saying that there is no one better on the ballot paper.

      If all those who did not bother to vote in the last election had in fact bothered to vote, and all voted for a candidate of the same small party, the House of Commons would be a completely different place. Now that would frighten the establishment.

  6. December 11, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Duty bound to add Rossa’s comment from my place:

    Richard says it best at EURef about this idea of a “democracy by fax” like the Prime Minister of Norway (an ardent europhile) claimed they would have if the Norwegians didn’t join the EU (they took no notice fortunately for them). It’s a tired old canard used by Cameron who either is completely ignorant of what really goes on or as usual deliberately misleads to obscure the truth. Maybe he just doesn’t want to face the fact that all he is is the defacto chairman of the sub-regional committee for the UK implementing decisions taken at a far higher level than even the EU.

    “Crucially, the essence of this is that most of the single market rules are negotiated at global and regional level. And, as this Bruges Group report makes clear, EEA/EFTA experts and representatives participate in over 500 committees and expert groups involved in what is known as “decision shaping” at this level. This, says the report, “is a valuable and appreciated opportunity for acquiring information and contributing to new legislative proposals at the earliest stages of policy formation”.

    And what is decided at global and regional level – often tied into a network of intergovernmental treaties – cannot be changed. The EU simply acts as the middle-man, turning what are called “diqules” into actionable law. But, as long as we are in the EU, we have less control than we would like over the formulation of these “diqules”.

    Whether it is technical standardisation of transport requirements from UNECE, common banking rules from the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision, international food standards from Codex Alimentarius, animal disease controls from the Office International des Epizooties (OIE) – created, incidentally, in 1924 – or labour laws from the International Labour Organisation, a we usually defer to the “common position” decided by the EU when dealing with these bodies.

    Outside the EU, and within the EFTA/EEA – where we were still part of the single market – we would regain our voice. Instead of the “common position” most often being decided by the French and Germans within the EU – with British voice suppressed – our “say” would actually be improved. We would be able to express our views directly in global councils, without the blocking “filter” of the EU.”

    The Slog on all this:

  7. mona
    December 11, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Will you people wake up. you are not going to be allowed to leave the EU, Cameron is employed not by you but a hidden authority. belive me I know, when he made his speech to become leader of the Conservative Party, David Davis sounded like he was about to fall asleep when he made his, why ?? unless you actually do as the Egyptians are doing, which you wont because most are too gutless or not really interested are stuck in the EU (Agenda 21), as with the million of our new friends from Romania and Bulgaria Know and can’t wait to join us (come here). must be that flouride.

  8. microdave
    December 11, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Excellent writing from Rifleman 1853.

    Guido has a letter from a long standing Tory MP to Cameron, which doesn’t pull any punches:

    • December 11, 2012 at 7:14 pm

      Good stuff, Microdave. Let’s take bets on how long iDave will last.

  9. John Archer
    December 11, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    I’m with Mona.

    Moreover, for me it’s no longer just a question of getting out of the EU and the rest. For what they have done I want revenge. More: I want bloody revenge. I want to see these bastards suffer unendurable pain and die in the full knowledge of what is being done to them and why.

    However, I’d learn to live with the frustration and settle for them just being dead by any means.

    I hope people can see a way to killing them, legally of course. But then that latter condition is merely a formality and no therefore impediment as thanks to them the law means Jack Shit these days. The paperwork can be dealt with post hoc, indeed post mortem.

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