Smoky drinky

Did you see that 105 year old who put his health down to smoking and drinking? At least he said the trick was not to be too careful.

There were some good comments on it at the DM:

#  The ironic thing is, when this wonderful gentleman finally meets his maker, the health zealots will record it as a smoking related death because he’s smoked more than 100 cigarettes in his lifetime. This is how they manipulate the statistics to ‘prove’ that tobacco is a ‘killer.’ Also, as 80% of people diagnosed with lung cancer last year were non-smokers, wouldn’t the £2.7 million spent on this latest anti-smoking campaign be better spent on actual cancer research aimed at the majority, instead of wasting it harassing the smoking minority?

#  A friend of mine was advised that, if he looked after his health, it would give him an extra few years. Why?, he said, those last years are the worst!

Don’t we know this next one?

#  OMG! An Ex-smoker who has lived a long life. Can anyone tell ASH and CRUK that their lies about 15 cigarettes killing you is just that – lies.- SadButMadLad, Burnley

I’m with those thoughts in spirit so best I don’t mention my mother dying of chronic bronchitis and my father of emphysema.

7 comments for “Smoky drinky

  1. Rossa
    January 9, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    On my father’s death certficate it said cause of death was a lung tumour and we were told this was because he used to smoke. Another statistic to support banning cigarettes. Well no it isn’t. For a start he actually died of heart failure as he was already in Stage 3 and we’d been told he only had 2 years and once in stage 4, that’s curtains for him. He was 4 months over the 2nd year when he died and the consultanit confirmed this after he died.

    The tumour was actually caused by the fact that he used to work with cellulose based paints in the 60s and 70s in a spray booth with very little in the way of protection i.e. a proper mask to prevent inhalation of the cellulose fibres. Didn’t have them in those days. It had responded well to the radiotherapy reducing by half and there was no other cancer in his body anywhere. His heart though couldn’t stand up to the treatment anymore. He was also an everyday drinker of wine, beer and spirits but his liver was clear.

    Perhaps they need to consider the fact that maybe avoiding hospitals and taking medication extended his life (the centenarian that is). More people are killed taking ‘legal’ prescription drugs than all the ‘illegal’ ones added up together.

  2. SadButMadLad
    January 9, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    Shucks, I can’t make a comment anywhere without someone spotting it.

    • January 9, 2013 at 7:27 pm

      You’re a known offender, sir.

  3. Jeff Wood
    January 9, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    “Also, as 80% of people diagnosed with lung cancer last year were non-smokers…”

    Does anyone have a source for this?

    The reason I ask is that the 80:20 ratio implied corresponds closely to the alleged ratio of nonsmokers to smokers; though I thought it was well-established that smoking gives an elevated risk of lung cancer.

    Summat may not compute.

    • January 9, 2013 at 7:48 pm

      I gather that the 80% non-smokers includes those that smoked at some stage in the past.

    • nisakiman
      January 10, 2013 at 5:37 pm

      I imagine that figure came from here:

      which I imagine is a reliable source.

      And as for “smoking being the biggest preventable cause of death”, which is the mantra trotted out daily, this is from the comments at VGIF a while back:

      Consider iatrogenesis which refers to any detrimental outcome produced by medical conduct (e.g., adverse drug reactions, medical errors, poor care of the bed-ridden resulting in infected bed sores). In America, from the very few studies that have been done, iatrogenic deaths are estimated at 750,000-1,000,000 per annum. It dwarfs the so-called tobacco “death toll” (400,000) and is approaching half of the total annual death toll in America (2,500,000). The medical establishment is by far the leading cause of preventable death and disability and associated costs. The translation for Australia is that iatrogenic deaths are estimated at 55,000-74,000 per annum compared with the tobacco “death-toll” of 15,000. The translation for the UK would be 150,000-200,000 iatrogenic deaths per annum.

      So indeed, there are many things which don’t compute.

  4. mona
    January 9, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    What kills people is taking the wrong “cure” try the, Rick Simpson Story. com

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