What We Need Is A Lower Speed Limit (Because They Don’t Obey The Current Higher One)!

Is it just me, or…?

Prof Snow said: “The speed limit is 30mph but drivers seem to go a bit faster than that. It would be safer if it was a 20 as it goes right past the school.

“The road is a 60mph limit until just before the school, meaning people don’t always slow down in time.”

They don’t slow down in time from 60mph to 30mph, but they will if you change it to 20mph?

Campaigners also want a footpath built near Chipping Ongar Primary School to stop children having to walk out into busy Greensted Road.

The pavement on the school’s side ends at Jewson, forcing youngsters to cross over several times or brave traffic and walk on the road.

Oh, the hardship! Good job this is Essex and not Nepal, where an unmade pavement would be the least of their problems…

“Have you heard about the situation in Chipping Ongar, Sunita?” “Terrible, Bina, just terrible..”

Claire Bodiam, 40, of Ongar, a member of pressure group Ongar Mums, said: “The Ongar Mums would like to see the pavement outside Jewson improved. Greensted Road is busy and having to cross it twice makes it even more dangerous.

“Many of our children are affected on a daily basis just walking there.”

And it didn’t occur to you you’d have this issue before you enrolled there?

Epping Forest District Councillor Paul Keska said: “We are aware that there is a problem with speeding along the road, this has already been raised at a Highways Panel meeting.

“We are looking at putting flashing 30mph signs onto the road and would definitely support any speed restriction, as any speed limit near schools is a good thing.

“We can’t do anything without Essex County Council but we have raised concerns.”

And in modern parlance, that’s good enough for local government work!

“In regards to the path, we have been told that there isn’t enough room for a modern pavement at Jewson. We have looked into having the building removed, as I believe it is empty, but we have been told that it may be listed but I can’t see how that is the case.”

Oh, you’d be amazed what sorts of eyesores can get listed…

10 comments for “What We Need Is A Lower Speed Limit (Because They Don’t Obey The Current Higher One)!

  1. amfortas
    April 20, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Barking. Barking Mad. Three stops past Barking though is even worse. Dagenham Mad.

    • April 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm


  2. Dave_G
    April 20, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Abolish ALL speed limits. Introduce a law pertaining to “driving at excessive speed” with punitive penalties.

  3. Alan Lyall
    April 20, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    I live in Dalkeith and work at the Royal Infirmary. The main road from Gilmerton to Cameron Toll used to be a national speed limit (i.e. 60). As above, almost everyone “drove too fast”.
    The Council dropped the speed limit to 40. Everyone still “drove too fast”.
    The speed limit is now 30 mph. There is a (rush hours only) bus lane which terminates on a blind corner, forcing two lanes into one.
    I usually drive down this hill at 30 m.p.h with a vehicle sitting in my blind spot. Said person waits till the road narrows, then attempts to overtake. I am obliged to brake hard to avoid him/her and the stream of like mindless maniacs who are tailgating him/her.
    I call it dangerous driving. 6 points and a hefty fine? No chance.
    What fun!
    By the way, the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary has a 10mph speed limit, which everyone ignores. That doesn’t stop drivers trying to force other vehicles out of the way so they can overtake.
    Speeding should a matter of circumstances. To drive at 30 mph along George St. (a very busy shopping area) at 10 a.m. on a Saturday morning may be legal, but in my opinion is tantamount to attempted murder. To drive at 101 mph on an empty motorway in good conditions should not normally be a problem. Guess which one will get you banned?

    • David A. Evans
      April 20, 2013 at 7:44 pm


      I’m a fast driver but I drive through a local village on Saturdays below the legal speed limit of 30mph & sometimes as low as 10mph.

      It’s called driving to conditions.


      • April 22, 2013 at 7:23 am

        But it requires judgement, rather than slavishly following official guidance. Useless, if that’s been trained out of you.

  4. John Bolton
    April 20, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    Alan Lyall is quite right on his comments on speed. However, flexible speed limits are not practical. Traffic law is complex enough without introducing varying speed limits (depending on time of day or even driver’s experience). A single limit is clear for all and readily understood. (And it is a maximum; you can actually travel slower!).
    I do not understand Julia’s complaint in this matter. School entrances are always danger points in traffic control. No, we can’t make everyone safe all of the time but we can structure roads and crossing points to make for maximum safety. The techniques for this have improved dramatically in the past fifty years. Having driven all over continental Europe, I would easily vote Britain as the best in in road layout/marking to inform and guide drivers. Unfortunately, many drivers do not understand or simply ignore the information that is laid out for them. I do not know the situation to which she is referring but comparing it to Nepal is somewhat confusing. Comparing apples and oranges perhaps. Let’s hope we can do better than Nepal.

  5. microdave
    April 20, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Norfolk Police commissioner says “Scrap some speed limits”

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