Why do we need three different taxes on your wages?

Matty Sinclair asks a good question:

Why are there three taxes on your wages? There is Income Tax, Employee’s National Insurance and Employer’s National Insurance. All those taxes take part of the money that your employer pays for your services and gives it to the Government. Why don’t we just call it what it is? Income Tax.

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Stop trying to tax us more
Stop treating everyone like children
Stop trying to micro manage everyones lives.
And above all, fuck off. Please.

10 comments for “Why do we need three different taxes on your wages?

  1. Nick
    May 17, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    I do rather take exception to this. Everything we have is paid for by our salaries. Therefore I’m paying a company’s import and export duty. A tax. I’m paying the VAT, council tax, stamp duty, business rates, bin taxes, green taxes. The list goes on.

    We are taxed from the second we are born. It just gets soaked up and even then it’s not enough for their rapacious pockets.

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  3. Bunny
    May 17, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    The whole concept there are only three taxes is laughable, I would argue that there are direct taxes (and the writer forgot council tax and vehicle excise duty) which are recognisable. Then there are the indirect taxes such as VAT, fuel excise duty, buying a pint, buying a litre of petrol, the things you need to warm your house.

    The list is endless, I would worry if they ever introduced a hemp rope and piano wire tax though.

  4. Viscount Rectum
    May 17, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Thats what you are there for see! pay and slave,just watch footie and Britains got talent and all the mind numbing shit in the Media, The Bilderbergers will be meeting soon with “above the law” pedo Clark running it, like chem-trails just breath it all in and be fucked forever.

  5. Mudplugger
    May 17, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    The reason for three ’employment taxes’ is simple. Only one of them attracts headlines, so the politicos make big public play of reducing the ‘Income Tax rates’, while stealthily clawing it all back, and more, through the other two unreported taxes.

    Which is why they’ll always find reasons not to combine them into one tax unit.

  6. ivan
    May 17, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Why do we need three different taxes on your wages?

    Answer: We don’t, in fact the question should be ‘Why do we need taxes?’ and don’t give me the runaround that the government needs the money – it doesn’t, the politicians only think they do.

    Taking that further do we actually need politicians, or would something like a board of directors be better at running UK PLC?

  7. Voice of Reason
    May 18, 2013 at 12:30 am

    In the last election, a lot was made of the fact that “50% of people in the US don’t pay income tax”, the object being to preserve very favourable status for the top 1%.

    The problem is that those figures didn’t include social security, nor consider active military, retirees and so on.

  8. amfortas
    May 18, 2013 at 3:35 am

    I see ‘Tax’ as a perfectly legitimate impost that enables the building and maintenance of the things that are useful for all. The imperfection is the ‘system’ whereby the constant stream is made non-constant and the stream itself, being a permanent fixture, being used, in the abuse meaning, to fund a bewildering array of non-essentials and geared to providing not for ‘all’ but for specific mendicant minorities and their favourite non-essential, non-universal schemes.

    Corruption is rife. It is the corruption, not ‘Tax’ per se, that is the problem.

    • Nick
      May 18, 2013 at 7:59 am

      No, it’s the taxes. That e have no control over how much they take or what they spend it on is offensive.

      When a basic rate tax payer has two thirds of their income stolen to pay the six figure salary of a waster town clerk, or a windmill which lines the pocket of Tim Yeo, or the incredible pensions of serial meeters in the civil service. No, taxes are too high.

      Tax is theft and tax is the problem.

      • amfortas
        May 18, 2013 at 8:27 am

        Nick, sir, I can agree on the amount. To me even one third is a dreadful and coerced impost. But no civilised society can manage without some form of public and universal subscription to commonwealth. How it is deployed SHOULD be what we elect our representatives for. They should be gauging the ‘commonality’ of the public desire, not following outrageous Party fantasies and the personal desires of those representatives. I would much prefer that all spending decisions should be discussed far more widely and deeply before voting (most reps do not even read the Bills put before them) and at least 85% agreement reached. Minority desires are catered to for base vote-capture reasons. Public money is used to bribe rather than provide Public Good. Corruption and waste is endemic. Lying by representatives is a pandemic.

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