I Just Don’t Understand The Fuss..

The usual suspects are outraged, but I can’t figure out why…

A woman who had a miscarriage at a private prison was left to clean up after herself while the foetus remained in her cell, it has been alleged.Her barrister, Philip Gibbs, told Leicester Crown Court: “There was blood everywhere and she was made to clean it up.“The baby was not removed from the cell. It was quite appalling. It was very traumatic. She only received health care three days later, after the governor intervened.”


What’s the problem? Isn’t it just ‘a clump of tissue‘?

9 comments for “I Just Don’t Understand The Fuss..

  1. Ed P
    December 16, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Well, I’ve been through two miscarriages and it’s not the sort of event a woman should have to cope with alone. Apart from the remnants of foetus and placenta, there’s quite a lot of blood and goo – which should be collected so a doctor may advise about any retained tissue, possibly requiring a D&C.
    Plus it’s an emotional time, when some support is really needed.

    • December 16, 2013 at 5:35 pm

      I don’t doubt it, my issue is with the usual suspects who declare abortion to be ‘nothing’ suddenly sobbing into their hankies over this. The hypocrites.

      • Watchman
        December 17, 2013 at 5:59 pm

        Abortion is a choice, but (done properly) should have counselling, and the person bearing the foetus (mother does not work in this situation) should not have to see it in case of causing upset.

        A miscarriage is not a choice, so any upset is likely to be much worse.

        And yes, a foetus that is not born is simply a lump of tissue. But the human who bore the foetus is not, and we should not be torturing humans in any way, particularly emotionally. Prison is fine (if you can’t respect the rights of others, yours can be curtailed), but that is the punishment, nothing else.

        Mind you, I suspect the usual suspects here don’t see your point – they just see a call for prison reform (women should not go to prison or some such…).

  2. Den
    December 16, 2013 at 11:00 am

    I can only hope that this is what passes for irony nowadays on your blog.

    • December 16, 2013 at 5:35 pm


  3. Rightwinggit
    December 16, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Breach of two court orders in place following previous offences by shoplifting…

    Failing to attend appointments with the probation service…

    “Wright pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 10 months’ jail.”

    Wright has mental health issues, had been battling long term heroin addiction…

    Looks like the kid got lucky.

    • December 16, 2013 at 5:36 pm

      Sadly, probably true…

  4. December 16, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Probably not the best timing to be reading this during dinner.

    Seems to me that’s pretty bad – birth is birth. A woman, no matter what she did, is entitled to a bit of help in those situations.

  5. richard
    December 16, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Indeed so.

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