EU – the utter lunacy of remaining in

The thing I find astounding and so many others obviously do too is how they can get away with the non-democratic structures and policies with that degree of impunity.

It’s the impunity itself which gets me. The specific cases – well take your pick:

Since the European Commission refuses to take into account the public’s views directly, people have turned to another mechanism to make their voices heard: a special kind of EU-wide petition called a European Citizens’ Initiative (ECI). If sufficient signatures are obtained from around the EU, the European Commission is obliged to respond, but the bar to make that happen is set quite high:

One million signatures must be gathered within one year. Additionally, in seven EU states a specific minimum of supporters must be achieved, e.g. 72,000 signatures in Germany, 55,500 in France, or 54,750 in the United Kingdom. If the initiative succeeds in doing this, then the EU Commission organises a hearing in the EU Parliament, and concerns itself with the matter. The ECI citizen’s committee then finally receives a written response from the Commission. If the Commission decides to present a legal act, then this is is passed on to the European Council and to the European Parliament.

Or maybe:

European Commission Denies EU Public Right To Express Views On TAFTA/TTIP And CETA

There are so many to choose from. It is so patently undemocratic and they sit up there making these rules with such … well … impunity … not oblivious in the least but knowing that no citizen, anywhere in the EU can affect what they do – this is the hallmark, the true evil, of a communist. The only important thing is can I be stopped.

If the answer to that is no, then they sit in conclave and make these outrageous laws, e.g. about vacuum cleaners in your home and hair driers – they’ve destroyed pharmaceuticals which actually work, they waste vast amounts of taxpayer money on frivolities and jollies and then keep an entirely straight face when speaking of the benefits of union.

In a way, it’s awe-inspiring the utter chutzpah, the sheer gall. And the structure is such that they can’t be thrown out – ever – except by wholesale revolution and that unleashes a bloodbath, which they also want.

It’s staggering and we’re like sleepwalkers ourselves – we just say oh, another EU act of corruption and absolutely nothing is ever done beyond a blogpost like this. And that’s the public which reads and cares. What of the great masses out there? Is this issue front and square with them?

It is not. There are even people who justify it by the simple expedient of ignoring the corruption, saying w-e-e-e-l-l-l, all nations have corruption.

Not on this scale, not unless it’s China or North Korea or some third world country. Accounts not signed off for how many years is it – approaching 20? So Nigel stands up in Strasbourg and is outrageous, we all applaud but what actually gets done? How is anything at all altered?

We should, of course, be out of this organization in a flash. The moment they weren’t signing off and were directing our own countries what to do, that was the point to leave.

Which brings up our quislings. So we try the recall route but that involves them “granting us” some limited power of recall of certain MEPs. No, no, no – that’s not what is needed in the least.  You don’t “grant” me anything.  You give what is mine or there are consequences.

But of course – there are no consequences, are there?  Half our own people won’t allow us to do that.

How did Barosso actually get to head this thing? What were the mechanics by which he found himself with this awesome power across a continent? Because those who put him in were the true crims. This is a federalized, communist state, crammed with socialists. The normal side of politics is represented, true – the side for national sovereignty and a free market – but why does it even indulge? It knows it has no real say. The people have no say.

Over here, in the [still] UK, there’s at least recognizable opposition, so we’re largely talking to ourselves. Douglas Carswell represents everything correct on this matter – he sacrificed his seat for it. OK, the cynical note – he was odds-on but he still did it, which none of those other bstds did.

It’s the way the EU completely blithely just goes on with this enormous scam, soaking up and wasting billions whilst real problems exist in each of the signatories and the way even some readers of this blog are still, to this day, sucked in and think it’s all fine – my mind just can’t take in how they can see something, see the rank corruption – and yet blithely press on as their masters wish them to.

I don’t wish to insult readers by using the term Pod People.

It has to stop. It looks as if there’ll be such pressure brought to bear on the bought Cameron that he’ll have no choice but to stand down but what will Boris do? Stay in!! Try to [ludicrously] “claw back powers”. Total barefaced lie and he knows it. He knows very well that no one EVER clawed back powers from this monster.

And people out there bemoan their lot, when the root cause of it is sitting on them like a giant toad. I seriously don’t know any more.

[H/T haiku]

15 comments for “EU – the utter lunacy of remaining in

  1. Ed P
    September 17, 2014 at 11:04 am

    “So Nigel stands up in Strasbourg and is outrageous”
    I see this as counter-productive – his rants please opponents of this ghastly Fascist edifice, but achieve worse than nothing. The other MEPs see him as a safety-valve, a useful idiot to be tolerated like the weird distant relative spouting unacceptable views met at funerals. He’s an alternative to action and fools many into believing he makes a difference.
    My new T-shirt design is, “Invoke Article 50 – the only way out”

    • September 17, 2014 at 1:21 pm

      Or revolution?

      • Ed P
        September 17, 2014 at 5:04 pm

        The British are revolting enough already – it’s chav-city near where I live! But why try and motivate the sheeple to rise up? If it’s not about “celebrities” or drink, they’re not interested.

        • Mudplugger
          September 17, 2014 at 7:42 pm

          We might previously have thought that about Scotland, but just check out how the ‘Yes’ campaign has managed to get so many hitherto politically uninterested folk to put aside the drink & celebrities momentarily and get involved in something which, to be frank, few of them really understand.
          There are key lessons for any future EU Referendum campaign in how Slippery Salmond has managed to marshal those usually-apathetics and spur them into following his direction. It is to be hoped that Mr Farage is taking voluminous notes.

          • mikebravo
            September 17, 2014 at 10:51 pm

            Its strange really.
            Either Scotland leaves the UK and we all become smaller manageable regions of the EU (because they would re-accept Scotland immediately). Or McBroon and the other westmonster quislings offer to break up the UK in all but name with the bill being footed by the English and we all become smaller, less troublesome regions of the EU.
            The beneficial crisis works out in favour of the EU again.
            How did that happen?

            • Mudplugger
              September 18, 2014 at 8:11 am

              It’s called sleepwalking – we’ve been doing it for more than 40 years since Traitor Heath and his mates sold us out, all fully aware of the ‘programme’.

              As long as it doesn’t affect the footie and X-Factor, we’ll stick to somnambulation.

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  2. john in cheshire
    September 17, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    James, I agree with you that EU is evil but don’t forget that the UN is effectively above the EU and I believe that entity is the epitome of evil.

  3. September 17, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    The fuse is burning, and getting shorter.

  4. September 17, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    Socialism on the outside, big business corruption on the inside, I think the term “corporatist” describes the EU best.

    • mikebravo
      September 17, 2014 at 10:56 pm

      It doesn’t matter what it’s deniable title is. It is the elite ruling over the plebs with the full unstoppable force and power of the state. When they get their war against Russia it will be a full blown tyranny.

  5. Furor Teutonicus
    September 18, 2014 at 9:25 am

    CC Over here, in the [still] UK, there’s at least recognizable opposition, so we’re largely talking to ourselves CC

    Not just in Britain. The AfD (Alternativ für Deutschland) have made excellent progress here in local elections, and even at the European “elections”. Throwing the FDP, and the greens into third and fourth position.

    You are NOT alone, and from what you may see as the strangest quarters.

    (The AfD are similar to UKIP, but German.)

    • Mudplugger
      September 18, 2014 at 12:08 pm

      AfD is substantially different from UKIP in that it still wants to remain in the EU, it just doesn’t much like the Euro single-currency, hence it is considered an acceptable ‘token’ opposition by the europhiles.
      UKIP is absolutely clear about its single policy objective – getting out of the EU, nothing more, nothing less.

      • Furor Teutonicus
        September 18, 2014 at 12:58 pm

        You have not met the Berlin branch….


  6. September 18, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    Let’s bring it on.

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