Yes, It’s Called ‘Reality’…

Naomi Oreskes struggles with the news that wind power can’t cope:

After the signing of a historic climate pact in Paris, we might now hope that the merchants of doubt – who for two decades have denied the science and dismissed the threat – are officially irrelevant.

But not so fast. There is also a new, strange form of denial that has appeared on the landscape of late, one that says that renewable sources can’t meet our energy needs.

Because, currently, they can’t. Not without a great deal of upheaval that people just won’t put up with.

Oddly, some of these voices include climate scientists, who insist that we must now turn to wholesale expansion of nuclear power.

Aha! And now, we’ll see them decried from the heavens for their heresy!

No more will it be ‘You must listen to them, because they’re scientists!’. They are now the wrong sort of scientists.

That would have troubling consequences for climate change if it were true, but it is not. Numerous high quality studies, including one recently published by Mark Jacobson of Stanford University, show that this isn’t so. We can transition to a decarbonized economy without expanded nuclear power, by focusing on wind, water and solar, coupled with grid integration, energy efficiency and demand management.

Where do you live then, love? Shall we flood your area?

If we want to see real solutions implemented, we need to be on the lookout for this new form of denial.

What, the sort of denial that says a scientist stops being worth of being listened to when they fall out of groupthink?

13 comments for “Yes, It’s Called ‘Reality’…

  1. john in cheshire
    December 28, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    I see she mentions demand management, or in plain speak rationing. That’s what is planned for us unless these haters and destroyers are stopped.

  2. Stonyground
    December 28, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Interesting that Oreskes describes those that rightly point out that renewables don’t work as being in denial, when that is precisely what she is.

    I can remember the power cuts in the nineteen seventies when we just lit candles and carried on. This time around that would be impossible because so much more stuff is electronic. The garage where I worked had petrol pumps that could be hand cranked, I doubt that any modern ones can. So what would be that likely outcome of mains electricity becoming more and more expensive, intermittent, and rationed? I would suggest that most businesses would install their own generators or even club together to build their own small scale power stations.

    • microdave
      December 28, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      “The garage where I worked had petrol pumps that could be hand cranked”

      I can (just) remember them!

      “I doubt that any modern ones can”

      And even if they could, how would the attendant know how much to charge you? Virtually all modern pumps have electronic displays, and these communicate with a similar display at the till.

      Back in the 70’s most tills were manual devices – in any case the people working them could usually add up in their head if not. More particularly, payment was by normally by cash, unlike the now almost universal use of credit/debit cards, which need a working card reader and telephone or internet connection to authorise the payment.. All of those disparate systems have to be working for life to continue these days.

      Our local chip shop proudly displays a sign saying they have a back-up generator, and will continue frying in the event of a power cut. BUT…..that assumes the gas supply doesn’t also fail. If nutters like Oreskes have their way even that is no longer certain – electricity is required to drive the compressor stations which pump it around, and all the monitoring equipment needed to control the gas grid. The same goes for water (and sewage) systems, so we we could literally end up in the sh1t…

      • January 3, 2016 at 6:03 am

        I’ve seen what happens when a barcode can’t be scanned in by a modern checkout operator. It isn’t an encouraging sign!

  3. Hereward Unbowed.
    December 28, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    Uh huh, I hate the way these dick splashes make a noun do the work of a verb….”We can transition” – FFS.

    I haven’t much time for this loony tune canuck.

    Naomi, she is absolutely barking, just like our own mad luvvies think of one named Emma Thompson, “we’re going to send you all back to the caves” mentalists. I would bet good money (well… maybe not) that, they both run and own ‘Chelsea tractors’ though, mmm they’re so SUV dahling!

    As John sagely says, if it isn’t true already, then, we’re being lined up for something which will be a truly spectacular disaster……

    AND YOU WILL BE RATIONED!! It gets worse, they want to de-gasify the economy [for want of a better term]. Yes that’s correct – the whole of the bloody nation – yes 23 million homes reliant on gas for cooking and heating will have to rip out their boilers and throw away their gas cookers because some green lunatics insist that we all use electricity – only they [the green blob] haven’t worked out where all that fucking ‘juice’ is going to come from! Hence the fall back euphemism – “demand management”.

    by focusing on wind, water and solar, coupled with grid integration, energy efficiency and demand management.

    That sort of glib green BS just trips of her(Oreskes) tongue, it is particularly galling because: she hasn’t a fucking clue about the reality and the hardship its facilitation and imposition would wreak on a very dismayed public…..

    Did I say Dismayed?

    Though I wish that, the very undismayed Johnny Public would fucking wake up and smell the coffee….

    Again and again I scratch my head, wondering to myself. It all begs the very big question, why do they vote for the fuckers {liblavCON} – who want to impose this lunatic green bullshit agenda?

    Is it solely al beebs fault or is it that, the UK populace has bought the green Kool Aid poison and when you read about Jim and his wonderful mission (the people’s temple) – and then think that, nine million voted for Miliband and eleven million bought Dave’s version – perhaps it ain’t so surprising that Naomi can spout her BS and bask in its glow……lit up like a piece Uranium ore…now there would be found – irony.

    Going green, is a facet but only one part of a greater overall strategy, and divining the grand scheme and green agenda programme……..One can only arrive at one conclusion. We should all KNOW IT! that, Dave and Naomi and Al Gore and Obarmy: want to wipe you and the nation state, in fact to efface what we know as the “west” – to total it and scour it off the face of the earth.

    • Hereward Unbowed.
      December 28, 2015 at 11:41 pm

      So, Klein not Oreskes, but it’s the same green delusion and no apologies.

  4. Ted Treen
    December 29, 2015 at 1:06 am

    Well if they send us back to the dark ages, that will make the favoured ones of the religion of peace feel totally at home. Maybe that’s at least part of their agenda.

    • Hereward Unbowed.
      December 29, 2015 at 7:58 am

      A good point, and it’s hard to argue with it.

    • Errol
      December 29, 2015 at 4:14 pm

      What I don’t understand is that three people are weak, state dependent academics and agitators. When they’re faced with a gang of hungry thugs – devolved simply to exist in a world without energy – what will these agitprops do? Complain bitterly to a non-existent police force? Write a stern blog post? They’re socially useless. Without our current society such people wouldn’t exist.

      • January 3, 2016 at 6:04 am

        They are Eloi, who haven’t yet seen a Morlock..

    • rapscallion
      December 31, 2015 at 2:00 pm

      It probably is come to think of it. It’s got UN Agenda 21 stamped all over it.
      I suppose we’ll have to dish out our justice medieval style. Anybody got a spare block and axe?

  5. Errol
    December 29, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    ‘Demand management’ – blackouts. How about all greenies go without energy, or the
    proceeds of energy for 24 hours. Just 24 hours?

    Simple things like no water, no clothing, no food, no shelter – just outside, in the buff, thirsty for 24 hours.

    I keep suggesting it but they never take it up. Obviously they mean it for other people, not themselves.

    • Hereward Unbowed.
      December 31, 2015 at 2:10 pm

      For the little people – always.

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