Brexit vote says act now, Tories and Labour immediately start leadership waffling

Not often this site leads with Guido but in this case it must:

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There’s an expression, no, that “this horse won’t run” and is that ever true with the Tories. What we have is 52% of the people wanting one thing and those they elected in each constituency are turning their backs on it.

No surprises at all, say you but I did think a little thing called a national referendum result would have to count, that they’d not be so brazenly contemptuous. The two leaders in that poll are bad. Johnson has already shown he’ll sacrifice controlled borders for appeasing the party PP to get the numbers to be PM.

To cut him some slack, perhaps he’s playing the consummate game, that he’ll betray Remain once leader and that all these platitudes now are just that.

Even were that so, it still gives the public no confidence he will deliver. His style is far more the big smile and the overture to Brussels: “Well you know, let’s not be too hasty about this Brexit thing, let the fullness of time, of the years, see where we go.”

That shores up his position with the Remainers, so he thinks.

May, on the other hand, is a Cameron/Osborne type snake, a bona fide serpent. Nothing about her is nice and her loyalties again are to herself first and then to all the wrong people. She’s the Hellary of the UK.

So here we are, having delivered not a close result – 4% is 4% – and there is every chance that, for party political reasons, this will be pushed down to a lower priority. That’s not on.

By what mechanism can we stop being ransomed to these Tory clowns? By voting in Corbyn and his party in turmoil?

And so we strengthen Remain who say we couldn’t run a whelk stall, better to be unter [sic] Herr Juncker, Schultz, et al. And look how sweet and reasonable they’re being in manner just now, except in reaction to Farage.

Point is, Nige can’t contain his disgust, the same disgust we feel for the pollies who control our destiny. He is therefore vital as the voice of the conscience of the people at this time, whatever his leadership qualifications in general.

So we are forced to sit back day after day, when the process should be starting, when Brussels expects it to start – and in this they are correct – and yet both Tories and Labour are waffling over a bunch of spoiled kids vying for leadership.

Were there a general election, who the hell could people vote for in place of these self-interested clowns?

15 comments for “Brexit vote says act now, Tories and Labour immediately start leadership waffling

  1. Errol
    June 29, 2016 at 6:37 am

    It shouldn’t matter whho is standing. They are our servants, hired to carry out our will. That’s all they’re for. That Cameron resigned (instead of being sacked after six months), that they now have a huge squabbling mess for power grabbing leaves us open.

    What should have happened is Dave stands up and says “I’m going to campaing to stay in.” We, in panto fashion say ‘Oh, no you’re not!’ and he then goes away and produces a clear and researched consideration of what will happen in the event of either side winning the referendum.

    Having done that, he then sits down for 4 months and waits for us to instruct him. At that point he carries out the plan we demanded he set out.

    This whole whitewash screams of a complete lack of democracy. That’ the fundamental underlying problem. Not immigratio, not economics, but simple control over those increasingly inept, arrogant fools who believe they rule us.

  2. QM
    June 29, 2016 at 7:21 am

    The only one worth it is Leadsom, an out and out Brexiteer.

    • June 29, 2016 at 8:03 am

      She looks to be angling for the Chancellorship.

  3. Be used
    June 29, 2016 at 7:23 am

    We need time to prepare. The negotiations under article 50 will be onerous and tough. We must determine our optimum desires, define the red lines and most of all be prepared to walk away without agreement if necessary.

    During tough negotiations you need tough negotiators. And the EU mentality ensures they will be tough, consequences for Britain, warning to other states, vindictive characters all already apparent.

    I have very little confidence in our team and fear a “it’s not good but the best we could do, we must have access to the single market” type statement in 2 years. Then it was all for naught.

  4. Graham Wood
    June 29, 2016 at 7:32 am

    Where is Owen Paterson when you want him?

    • John in cheshire
      June 29, 2016 at 8:35 am

      Graham, good point, that’s what I’ve been thinking.

      Also, Mr Cameron said before the Referendum that if the vote was to Leave, he’d immediately invoke Article 50. So that’s another promise he’s broken. I long for the day when these political shits realise that none of this is about them. If only there was a mechanism whereby they could be by passed and we could formalise our exit without waiting for them.

  5. June 29, 2016 at 8:59 am

    Guido adds:

    … how to convince wavering Leavers to endorse BoJo. Stressing Gove’s expected role as the chief EU negotiator should help reassure apprehensive Outers that Brexit will be delivered …

    Very much so. Not far from commenter Wolfie’s thinking elsewhere that Gove’s the one.

  6. June 29, 2016 at 9:41 am

    I sent an email off to Owen Paterson’s Westminster office yesterday evening, asking if he would consider placing himself in contention for the leadership.

    Not surprisingly, I received a reply which stated that he was not considering a challenge at the moment. But his Parliamentary Assistant also thanked me for my message, and added that I was by no means the only one.

    • Brightside Bob
      June 29, 2016 at 7:31 pm

      Thank you Mike.

  7. Lord T
    June 29, 2016 at 11:07 am

    The vote didn’t say just jump. It gave instructions and we should follow them in the best way for the UK. That means we need to prepare.

    This leadership thing is a distraction but had to happen. Cameron almost managed to do the right thing by resigning but leaving us unsteered until October is wrong.

    • June 29, 2016 at 11:34 am

      Yes, when is “soon”?

  8. June 29, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    What happened to David Davies? The elder, not the younger.

  9. Junican
    June 29, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    I’m surprised that Cameron did not have a contingency plan ready, in the form, perhaps, of a plan to create a committee to get things started. Certainly, in the first place, a decision would need to be made, and publicised as soon as possible, as to what does ‘Leave the European Union’ mean.

    • Henry Kaye
      June 29, 2016 at 9:53 pm

      You thought that Cameron would do something honest and honourable?

  10. Mudplugger
    June 29, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    Beware all those who seek to slow or delay the process. The exit-clause on the Lisbon Treaty (Article 50) changes next March – after that, any member seeking to exit will need to secure a ‘qualified majority vote’ agreement from all the other member-states.

    Can you imagine a majority of the parasite-states ever allowing one of the major patron-states to leave and take their cash with them? Hell will freeze over first.

    Frau Merkel is playing a double-cross game, by apparently encouraging haste, she knows that will cause an auto-reaction delay and, hence, Britain will fall foul of that new rule.

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