The dilemma of whom to vote for

Not sure if this will help anyone but it’s what I went through today. Had some time and thought I’d check out the candidates in our [till now] Labour constituency to work out whom to vote for.

First move was to ring Tory HQ and got through to a lady who put me through to a line where no one was but that recorded voice suggested I email. If I’d wanted to do that, I would have emailed in the first place.

I phoned Tory HQ again and now the lady was annoyed with me, putting me through to another line where the same happened. I tried again and said the Tories had lost maybe one, maybe 12 votes as a result of this.

Maybe they have, maybe they haven’t – I’ll decide on the day.

Second move was to contact UKIP HQ and it was completely different – very helpful but the issue was no one has heard of this candidate and there’s nothing online – believe me, I’ve tried. She gave me his email.  He has responded this evening in a very nice way.

By the way, UKIP tell me the Manifesto is coming out next Wednesday.

However, I noticed that the chairman of the branch was a former candidate I’ve voted for before and so I contacted him. The following is a very heavily redacted reply – nothing inserted but names are extracted:

Afternoon James.

As I am no longer a member of UKIP, I can give you some objective advice but I would need more time than I have right now to respond in detail, so …


1. UKIP appear to lack cohesion and resources and the polls are indicating downward trends.

2. LAB are promising the world … but are they fiscally sound?

3. CON want to demonstrate leadership and strength yet back down when Dementia Tax policy is universally criticised?


4. LAB MP is a great constituency MP. Hard working but … LAB!

5. CON candidate states he is pro Brexit. This means he only voted ‘out’ as I controlled Brexit in XXXX for the combined campaigns (UKIP, Leave, Grassroots Out etc.) and never saw his name come up in anything as helper or coordinator etc.

Hope this helps.

Don’t vote?

We had this discussion yesterday and I was strongly of the opinion that we should always vote, if only for an Indy.  Others begged to differ.  However today, with the list of candidates in front of me, all are established parties, no Indies.

Thus it’s Tory, UKIP or nothing and nothing is looking quite good.  If the Tories are so disorganized that they can’t even answer a query [or so arrogant], if UKIP are so underfunded and disorganized – then what choice does one have?

Meanwhile, Theresa May u-turns on pensions.

Oh, by the way, what I was hopefully finding out about the two candidates was how pro-Brexit they really were and then I was going to ask about immigration.  Unless I can get some sort of indication on immigration, then I may well not vote.

10 comments for “The dilemma of whom to vote for

  1. PJH
    May 22, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    Bear in mind that there is actually a difference between ‘not voting’ and ‘turning up and spoiling your ballot paper’ – they do actually count spoilt votes (but rarely publish the figures.)

    • May 22, 2017 at 3:27 pm

      Ah yes. thank you. Shall think on’t.

    • Paul
      May 22, 2017 at 4:28 pm

      As for me, I have the following choices in my constituency.

      I’m a current UKIP member in Ribble Valley, and there isn’t a specific local branch for my area.

      So, I have these options:

      The present MP – Conservative – strong Leaver but I have a real issue with many Conservative policies. I don’t trust May one bit on pretty much anything.

      Labour – the guy is a really arrogant wanker, cannot stand Corbyn

      Liberal Democrat – he’s stood many times in the area. I won’t be voting for him because the LDs are so hardcore pro-EU and are not liberals in any sense of the word.

      Green – well, it’s the Green Party, what do you think?

      So, I haven’t got a lot of choice.

      • Mudplugger
        May 22, 2017 at 8:29 pm

        Although not as member of any party, I share the same situation and view.
        My perspective is that because achieving Brexit is the single most important thing the next government must complete, all other policies are froth, they can be addressed any time after 2019 when we have regained full control of our destiny.
        Therefore, on June 8th, the choice must be for the candidate whose party offers the most likely chance of achieving Brexit (on any terms). Hold your nose if you must, but it’s worth it to be free.

        • May 22, 2017 at 11:13 pm

          Thanks both Paul and you for that.

  2. Voice of Reason
    May 22, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    Robert Heinlein: “When in doubt, vote against.”

    • May 22, 2017 at 11:13 pm

      Wise advice from across the pond.

  3. Hereward Unbowed.
    May 23, 2017 at 2:40 am

    Scribe ‘None’:

    Write; “None” diagonally across the various canditates on the voting paper and strike though all the boxes with a single line.

    I wouldn’t vote Steptoe even with a gun pointed at my head and as for May – pretty much the same, unfortunately for me, this time around my UKIP candidate is not even a runner.

    I wonder if, the unfolding events concerning the brutal atrocity in Manchester will cause any sort of realignment, my feeling is that it should but my cynical head says not.

  4. Lord T
    May 23, 2017 at 10:54 am

    May is counting on us having no options. Personally if there is a UKIP candidate I’ll vote for them. I don’t believe a conservative government led by May should have such a majority that she can do what she wants. I want a small majority so that back benchers can make a difference.

  5. mikef
    May 23, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    Not voting, or spoiling your ballot paper is a cop out. Brexit is the issue and the Tories are the only ones who can deliver it. There are plenty of forces lined up against it. For goodness sake don’t let them win.

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