But We Already Know…

The latest hand-wringing polemic from the ‘Guardian’ about black knife crime:

The best chance we have of sparing the next child from an early death is finding out why the last one died.

We certainly aren’t going to find anything new. Let’s start off with dysfunctional family:

Shirley raised Sean on her own for most of his life. She separated from his father when he started dealing drugs, but his father and paternal grandmother played an active role in his life.

And add to it a sense of grievance that people are punished for their crimes:

When Sean was in primary school, his dad was deported. This was the first time Shirley noticed Sean getting angry and withdrawn.

And then add a predisposition to violence:

At secondary school he seemed to be doing well academically, but before long he was expelled after an altercation with a teacher.

A dollop of peer pressure:

From there he was sent to a Pupil Referral Unit, which Shirley considered not an alternative academic environment but a dumping ground for children with behavioural challenges. She tried to get him moved.

“This is not the environment for my child,” she told them. “I know my child. If he is around people who are bad, he’s going to want to be the best at being bad.”

And a refusal to believe that being a little shit isn’t something medically curable:

Shirley had him assessed again by CAMHS, but she says that after a 20-minute interview he was declared fine.

“I’m not a professional,” she says. “But I don’t think you can assess in that short space of time.”

Then the reliance on the State to DO SOMETHING:

She put him in care, asking for him to be placed outside London, away from temptation. Instead, he remained in London and started getting into more serious trouble, including street robberies. She complained and lobbied. Emails received no response. It was around this time she first appealed to her MP to HELP ME SAVE MY SON!!!!. Further emails to Brent council over the next couple of years carried subject lines including “I HAVE HAD ENOUGH” and “UTTER DISAPPOINTMENT”.

And the inability of that State to do anything, preoccupied as it is with its own internal politics:

Brent council says: “An independent multi-agency review is now taking place. The council, along with other agencies involved, has been participating fully in this process to help us agree how lessons can be learned. … it would not be appropriate to comment further on any aspect of the case until this review is concluded later in the autumn.”

And then the overweening demand for criminals to have ‘rights’:

At one point Shirley asked for Sean to be put in a rehabilitation unit that he wouldn’t be able to leave. But, she claims, Brent said they thought the request would be denied by the courts because it would take away his freedom

Plus the corrosive & negative effects of the rest of this blighted ‘community’:

Nine days before the murder, Sean explained, he had been beaten up by members of a gang. When he went to visit a friend, he was offered not a salve for this adolescent wound, but salt. His friend’s mother said: “I’ve never known you take a beating,” while his friend asked whether he would “take the violation”.

That same friend gave him the knife, ski mask and gloves. Sean took them to his foster home and left them under his bed.

And there you have a teenage murderer. Did you find out anything you didn’t already know?

8 comments for “But We Already Know…

  1. Hereward Unbowed.
    September 25, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    Whatever you say, whatever you do, really ask it, could society have prevented this tragic tale or was it the fault of a society which is too full on, do this don’t do that?

    My mate, whose mother ran a creche said, “there are some kids who are just born bad and at 2 – 2½ years or thereabouts you can tell how it will go”.

    Genes, probably, neglect maybe, education non existent, parenting – what was missing in his life?

    In the end, it’s got to come down to the individual because, if the mind abandons ‘self esteem and hope, then welcomes in nihilism and hate’, if you’ve given up……………… who the hell can rescue you?

    • Voice of Reason
      September 25, 2017 at 4:57 pm

      ‘My mate, whose mother ran a creche said, “there are some kids who are just born bad and at 2 – 2½ years or thereabouts you can tell how it will go”.’

      I have argued that nature is at least as important as nurture for over 40 years, only to be told again and again that something ‘bad’ must have happened in early childhood, even for children adopted before age 1.

      • Hereward Unbowed.
        September 25, 2017 at 7:51 pm

        I know that lady very well, she is no fool, she does not say that sort of thing lightly.

        I’ve heard it, very similar comments from very scholarly people including a friend who is a medical Doc and one or two Psychs, and many teachers, some people are just born bad or shall I say with their brains mashed up in a different order which begets inate malignancy and is by no means a trait solely claimed by the Homo Sapiens and we live among ‘throwbacks’.

        I firmly believe that Atavism is a common in the spiral deoxyribonucleic acid – if you know what I mean and that’s just nature.

        • Kristin
          September 26, 2017 at 6:02 am

          In the DNA?? No. There were a handful of German scientists that tried to convince the world that that was a scientific ‘fact’, and failed. They failed not because they weren’t very convincing, they failed because there is no such thing as inherited intelligence or personality. You can’t inherit your grandmother’s love of knitting, your dad’s hatred of cats, or your grandfather’s brilliance. What?? you gasp, well this just can’t be so. Well, it is so. Eye color, hair, skin yes- meanness, anger, no. Believe me. It isn’t inherited. It is nazi eugenics that wanted to believe it, and tried to wangle facts to suit their agenda but no biologist worth his or her salt- or biology student, heck even a first-year student believes that nonsense (or should). Let me reiterate: intelligence or criminal behavior is not inherited. Another point- sometimes you hear a medical person use the term “genetic predisposition” sometimes that phrase is used for unproven inherited traits, but for possible inherited traits.

          • Voice of Reason
            September 26, 2017 at 2:11 pm

            Your statements lead me to the conclusion that you have no use for epigenetics.

            That leads to questions about behaviour. How do bower birds learn to build their bowers? More significant, how do cuckoos know that they are cuckoos, and not the species which raised them?

    • Mudplugger
      September 26, 2017 at 8:28 am

      A child will be at a crèche for perhaps 20 to 30 hours a week – that leaves around 140 hours every week when the child is under the influence of its family, for good or ill. Do the maths – the family has around 85% of the ‘nurture window’ (and it was 100% before starting at the crèche).

      It’s the same as the nonsense about Jamie’s school-meals – there are roughly 1,100 meal opportunities in a year: school-meals account for a maximum of 180 of those, meaning that around 85% of the food-influence is elsewhere (and it was 100% before starting school).

      Genetics don’t get a look-in.

    • Errol
      September 26, 2017 at 8:46 am

      What was missing? Discipline! A damned mother who *did something*. A father, the flipping nuclear family unit. That was what was missing.

      What separates the Alices and Michaels from the Seans and Aarons? Parents. Not money, not ‘class’, but decent parents. The Guardian (and all lefties) believe the state must take control of these situations to ‘resolve’ them. The state is the problem. The state is what creates these daemons.

      It can’t control them, it isn’t interested in raising them, in teaching them – heck, schools are already pressured to be surrogate parents for those who can’t be bothered to go even sort out breakfast for their kids.

      Case in point – there’s a mother with 8 children, all mentally subaverage who dumps them at school in the morning and leaves them there until gone 8 – for after school dinner. What does she do? Bugger all. Smokes, drinks, watches TV, shouts at them. Just doesn’t want the brats around but likes the welfare cheques.

      In contrast there’s another mum who drops her children off *and sits with them* talking to them and their friends over their cereal. She does the same after school classes but is there *with them*. This woman works, has a solid job – flexible hours, yes, but she still works. Who’s children are going to grow up to contribute to society? The waster chavs or the ones who can see their Mum cheering them on to climb just one more rung of the ladder?

    • Mona
      September 26, 2017 at 1:10 pm

      It would be interesting to know the medical history of Sean ie vaccinations how many and what illnesses he may have had?, his diet? ie was he fed on fast food, lots of toxic sugary foods and his father was deported for what crimes.
      The mother tried her best Brent council (lessons never Learned) had a choice the liability on the taxpayer was obvious, pay the cost now to try save Sean or pay to keep him in prison, I would put money on it he will convert to the religion of peace and when he comes out loads of kids for our heritage to enjoy.

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