Bug Or Feature?

 

Last month, the home secretary, Sajid Javid, said that EU nationals would be asked to answer “three simple questions” in an online form to continue living in the UK once it has left the EU.

Applicants will be asked to prove their identity, that they have no convictions and that they currently live in the UK.

Charities working with Roma communities across the UK have said that although most Roma are EU citizens and have the right to be in the UK, many are illiterate, would struggle to provide paperwork and do not have access to computers or smartphones.

Martin Burrell, chair of the Luton Roma Trust and Mihai Bica, from the Roma Support Group seem to not want to be out of a job, don’t they?

The Roma are traditionally a travelling group of people and are one of Europe’s most marginalised groups. Many came to the UK in the 1990s to escape persecution in eastern Europe. After the expansion of the EU in the 2000s, more Roma have arrived in search of a better life.

A ‘better life’ that doesn’t include learning the language, gaining qualifications, and finding work in order to buy the things that people tend to buy, eh?

“The UK has been a welcoming place for so many communities and it has improved the lives of Roma a lot after their arrival here.”

How exactly has it done that, then? Since they remain as illiterate and itinerant as in their countries of origin?

And don’t take advantages of the basic services like proper refuse collections?

A Home Office spokesperson said that throughout the application process the government would be looking for reasons to grant, rather than to refuse, settled status.

In god’s name, why?

9 comments for “Bug Or Feature?

  1. john in cheshire
    July 11, 2018 at 10:35 am

    JuliaM, the first question that should be asked of the champions of these immigrants is are you willing for them to be living next door to you?

    From all that I have heard and read about these immigrants, they cause trouble, destruction, crime and ugliness wherever they exist. They benefit no one but themselves and to a man they should be deported from our country, together with all the other ‘traveler’ tribes.

  2. Dr Evil
    July 11, 2018 at 11:59 am

    They should ALL be on a bus back home on 30 March 2019. Bloody scrounging parasites or ATM thieves and/or beggars the lot of them.

  3. July 11, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    No smartphones ? By golly they are in a bad way. Most of the ‘refugees’ coming across the Med in rubber boats have no identification or luggage, but every one of them seems to have smartphones and ciggies. A better class of ‘travellers’, perhaps?

  4. Edward Spalton
    July 11, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    Some years ago, there was great pressure to provide campsites for the “travelling community”
    I suggested a condition that planning permission should only be given for sites which were adjacent to the homes of councillors – generally starting with the most senior first. For some reason, this modest proposal did not find official,favour.

  5. Bill
    July 11, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    “most Roma are EU citizens and have the right to be in the UK”

    So they are citizens of the state having been given citizenship by the European Union state.

    “Applicants will be asked to prove their identity, that they have no convictions and that they currently live in the UK.”

    So they don’t have to prove they are citizens of the EU just ‘their identity’. Surely if they cannot prove they are citizens of the EU then out ya go matey, presumably back into the slightly smaller Europen Union.

  6. Penseiveat
    July 11, 2018 at 6:50 pm

    They may be illiterate, or selectively “do not understand paperwork”, but that is as far as it goes. They are adept at plugging in their electrical systems into the nearest lamppost, are as skilled in the use of computers and smartphones as those people who send probes to other planets and are extremely handy in remembering the different names and dates of birth they use when claiming benefits. They may wear rags in the street, or in the magistrates courts on the rare occasion they actually turn up, but they drive the latest pick-up trucks, though often with false plates, and have funerals for their own costing tens of thousands of pounds. Their knowledge of both civil and criminal law would shame, and has done, the CPS solicitors.
    Those who run Roma charities are either so naive that they see what they want to see or are so cynical that they have jumped on the public funded bandwagon, knowing that if it wasn’t for the Roma, they would have to work for a living.
    On the other hand, being a professional deprived victim must be terribly draining.

  7. Pcar
    July 11, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    Applicants will be asked to prove their identity, that they have no convictions and that they currently live in the UK.

    Six would be better:
    4. Speak English?
    5. Working?
    6. Not receiving benefits/tax credits?

    Charities working with Roma communities…, Roma would struggle to provide paperwork and do not have access to computers or smartphones.

    If they have no paperwork, how did they enter UK?

    “computers or smartphones” – totally irrelevant.

    .
    Free Movies, food and drink for Roma
    “We’re All Going On A Summer Holiday” to RoI

    RoI sends their’s here, let’s reciprocate – night freight ferries Liverpool-Dublin, several containers each night – one week should clear problem.

  8. JS
    July 11, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    “do not have access to computers”

    Public libraries always have them. They might even pick up the urge to learn to read while they are there.

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