The words in the heading were chosen carefully, so as not to target particular people, I’m writing of a general principle here and why I take this stance.
1. Because of health, age, busy-ness, other factors, I have neither the time nor energy to do it all over again when it’s all been said so many times. The moment Remoaner ideas sit in comments, I then have to waste time and energy refuting them all over again, which I’d do were it a worthy cause, which it’s not.
And as that is the whole point of Remoaner tactics – spout bollox and legerdemain in order to wear the opposition down by constantly repackaging – sorry, I for one have better things to do.
2. However, there is also the aspect of a deepening anger over a long period now at the dishonest tactics. Now again, I’m not referring to any particular person, just to the modus operandi.
And it has parallels in the States.
An example in the US was that woman who alleged Kavanaugh did those things but has admitted, now it’s all over, that she’d never met him. Ruin a man for purely political reasons.
She’s being referred by the Senate for investigation but that’s hardly good enough – it is the Dems themselves who did this thing who should be investigated.
Things like the caravan only get me to medium level anger, I can go about my business after seeing them. But I can’t after Kavanaugh and the same goes for anything coming out of the egregious Remoaners.
It’s the unprincipled dishonesty and constantly false information which is always the root cause, plus the smug taking of the Michael. It never did go down well with me, consequences tend to ensue.
Another analogy is the issue a few years back when a retired actor was phoned on television by two idiots who went on about his granddaughter being a whore. Let’s say you were that grandfather – would your apoplexy and dismay not be many times higher than the ordinary with those two idiots? But they’d ask whaa, whaa, why so intense about it all?
It’s the taking of the Michael, combined with the falseness which does it.
See, it’s not a question of “disagreement” over an issue, nor even “annoyance”, rather it’s “disgust” at the unprincipled tactics. It’s all about the modus operandi.
I simply have no time for it any more, in much the same way that Arron Banks smiled and asked the C4 journo why would he go on Channel 4, a propaganda channel, not a news channel? The babe persisted so he made it clear, to her incredulous look, that neither that channel nor her were of any interest to him.
That’s it with me too. Also, to really understand the intense weariness over the anti-British things Remoaners have been doing, I’ll just have to drag you, one last time, through it all again, sorry.
May as well start here.
Total bias from supposedly impartial bodies
Look at the govt’s letter to every household in 2016:
Look first at the print in bold – no doubt of the govt’s position, no mention of the arguments for the other side.
In an official electoral document.
Also look, in that document, at the highlighted section in pink and it’s crystal clear what the govt’s promise is. It is further reinforced in Cameron’s own words:
Help to make it work … we’ll come back to that further down. Here is how the BBC interpreted “impartiality” with its taxpayer funded national broadcaster:
And even the body running the actual referendum and afterwards:
Now they say people could not weigh up the two sides? Damn right they couldn’t – the Leave side [as in Farage/Banks/UKIP] was not allowed to put its case.
The EC decided that the Tory version was going to be the sole voice for Leave, cutting out Farage, Arron Banks and UKIP. It was UKIP, plus EUsceptic MPs which had forced the referendum. It was Gove and Johnson who then started their own fun and games, making statements and leaving themselves open to comeback from Remoan, which the latter are still going on about today. They speak of lies from Leave – they are referring to Gove and Johnson.
The EC, having lost the referendum, now of course started its games again and the BBC dutifully fell in line:
Note the inverted commas or talking marks in that Beeb leading story which mean, in journospeak – “alleged, unverified but stated as fact”.
And this ‘unbiased’ EC fined Vote Leave £61,000. Who are Vote Leave by the way? Is it Farage/Banks/UKIP yet?
Here was the Brexit funding, according to the EC:
Remoan spent way over the odds and yet the Electoral Commission decided to investigate the other side … ONLY?
Not even the slightest attempt at impartiality. The EC has past form in this.
Do you remember the Euro elections? Look at 1:15 to 1:52 of the clip below where Farage is asked about the tactics on the ticket where the EC allowed “An Independence from Europe” who were deliberately trolling the UKIP name at the head of the ballot to siphon votes away from UKIP who were at the end of the ballot paper and reports came in of polling station officials even folding the paper over and giving it to voters:
Guess what the EC did about the complaint? Yep, they tried to investigate Farage instead. And now they’re at it again, see further down this page.
And what of the General Election? Readers would be aware that Craig Mackinlay who took Thanet South for the Tories, shutting out Nigel Farage, the result known at 11:43 p.m. the night before the boxes were opened, after those and other tactics [posts passim], was recently under investigation for shoddy funding. It’s not him, is it? It’s his machine.
Nothing happened. Let off.
Now people up and down the UK saw these tactics regarding the referendum, everyone had reason to believe, from the leaflet to households that whatever the result was, the promise was going to be respected, to other promises, that this was indeed to be a once in a generation result.
And there was no way, at any stage, that it was going to be a partial exit or partial remain, a “stay in the customs union” type Brexit – it was always going to be either full Brexit, within a short space of time, or full Remain.
Oh and who is the High Priestess of the Remoaners in parliament? This bint:
Yes that’s right – not the head of Leave but the head of Remoan herself, having done an about face. Even she initially accepted it.
And of course, our own side keep pointing out:
Here’s a bit more on this ‘impartial’ EC:
The EC strikes back
As Mark points out:
That’s the understatement of the year, Mark but quite right – those two, plus UKIP, were sidelined and all the moves were made by the various Tory forms of Leave.
Yet who are the EC hitting? You guessed it – the very man who was not allowed to be part of the official campaign, Arron Banks. And Americans will be amused by this but they’re trying to get him on “Russian money”, just like the Donald.
Naturally, Banks, a businessman, has hit back:
And a friend of his pointed out that the EC had, in fact, made a grave error:
And readers saw that there was nothing in the interview. Marr tried everything, but the documents and bank statements were there for the investigators. We’ve already seen the EC try to refer him to the NCA who wanted nothing to do with it, they called it a “fishing expedition”.
Marr concluded that “this is getting too complicated”. Yes, delving into people’s private affairs in that aggressive, unsubstantiated way does get complicated.
The EC don’t like this, so now it’s going to be the police, it’not a sub judice court case yet, so I can still comment. The BBCdeigned to go public on it, so [still] can anyone else in the land. To our American friends – it’s shades of Mueller all over again. I can’t put the Twitter clip here because some readers don’t have Twitter but this was Arron yesterday:
Note the poppy by the way.
And of course, Remoan were not at all happy that Banks now “had a platform” from which to defend himself – national television. Not happy at all. The Green communist Lucas:
And of course, the whole time, Project Fear is running a new story every few days:
And this is “help to make it work“?
Is it any wonder the general populace is bone weary with it all and as for us – deeply angry and weary too. But they keep dragging it out and out and out, trying to get people to forget why they voted Brexit and hey presto, suddenly Blair comes back and supports a Second Referendum.
Sigh. In reply to these idiots, I refer you to Cameron’s and Soubry’s statements yet again at the top of this post.
In fact, one lady ran a poll with 32,000 votes up to this point on just what the opinion is out there:
So when a Remoaner came in and tried to claim 15 million, not the 17.4 million, a figure coming from some shoddy sampled polls – and all of them are shoddy now from Survation to the Independent, the Guardian, Yougov, you name it – don’t trust any of them – then I’d simply had enough of the whole bloody thing from 2010 onwards – a gutful you might say.
You can only push a person so far.
It wasn’t anything personal, it was just that I was not going to allow that fake c**p at this site and I refer to the whole shooting match, not to any particular figure alone.
As if the second referendum bollox were not enough, May then held a contrived meeting at Chequers and out of it came a forced deal with the EU which no one supported, not even the Remoaners.
Yet she plunged on ahead, visiting the EU and getting nowhere several times – why? Why? Why? Why? Roger Helmer stated at the 2010 Tory Conference that the EU never, ever gives back powers. It never has, it never will.
The answer why is in the post and comments here:
… and here:
The Editor of the Spectator has written on it:
Other opinions on it:
As for the funding the EC wants investigated – how about Open Democracy and Remoan? Were it not so serious, I’d be laughing uncontrollably by now.
From all the above, can readers get any sense of why I am taking the stance I am?
On the basis of the promises, then that signed off result, a once in a generation poll, we should be out, we’re not. ’75 went the same way – to be a once in a generation poll and that was that. If you want dishonesty and shoddy meetings, go no further than Heath.
And yet the result stood for a generation.
These Remoaners need arresting and the ringleaders executed on Tyburn Hill.
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