Don’t forget Lisbon 2020

This was sent by Rossa’s mother from our site, no url, it’s a comment on a post by someone using the moniker Dumbo, the comment is by a Steve Carpenter [I’ve not edited in any way]:

Rob Dumbarton when we leave the EU the UK will still purchase good from EU Countries. If the French decide to have a hard border for all UK transport and fresh good spoil. It’s there own fault. If the UK don’t exit by the end of 2019 the Lisbon treaty will become active:

1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.

2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.

3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.

4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled – but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)

5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.

6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.

7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.

8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.

9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.

10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights

11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights

12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 – as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty

13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation

14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent

15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy

16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them

17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths

18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc

19: The UK loses control of its judicial system

20: The UK loses control of its international policy

21: The UK loses full control of its national policy

22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.

23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program

24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction

25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty

26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020

14 comments for “Don’t forget Lisbon 2020

  1. FrankH
    April 11, 2019 at 3:18 pm

    I saw that list a few weeks ago. Much as I hate the EU, I’m pretty sure it’s mostly, if not all, untrue.

    • April 11, 2019 at 3:52 pm

      Evidence it’s not?

      • FrankH
        April 12, 2019 at 10:08 am

        “Evidence it’s not?”

        That’s not how it works. The person making the claim gives evidence that the claim is true. Where is the evidence that your list is true? Point to it in the Lisbon Treaty that Gordon Brown signed.

    • Distant Relative
      April 11, 2019 at 4:34 pm
      • April 11, 2019 at 7:26 pm

        I don’t trust it it. Sounds a Snopes type operation.

        • Distant Relative
          April 12, 2019 at 9:10 am

          The thought occurred to me as I was posting that link “Who checks the ‘fact checkers’ ?” Was last call for early din-dins and one has to get one’s priorities right. 🙂

    • Errol
      April 12, 2019 at 10:08 pm

      It’s not, Frank. Sadly much is already true. Look at VAT. The EU already ‘approves’ our budget in case we radically cut taxes and become competitive and efficient.

      And the ECJ is already supreme. Look at the idiotic human rights act.

      The only untrue issue is the movement of the City to Frankfurt, It will move to America, not to the clutches of the EU which is desperate to soak every penny from it to it’s eventual destruction.

  2. Pcar
    April 12, 2019 at 12:09 am


    Great minds!

    I posted this on Tim N an hour or two ago:

    @Mark on April 11, 2019 at 5:08 pm

    As we’re not in the Euro it’s perhaps out of sight out of mind but something has to give sooner or later.

    Yet… all change from 2020

    4 Apr 2019 Great Britain’s surrender document – the Lisbon Treaty

    03 Nov 2009

    @Jim on April 11, 2019 at 7:40 pm

    If The Leave Means Leave Party say ‘We will stand in this constituency because the MP is a treasonous c*nt, but we won’t stand in that one because he (or she) isn’t’ then they do have a fair degree of power over who gets to be an MP.

    +1 Now we need Farage’s party, UKIP & AMW to all stand together as “Leave Means Leave Party”

    • April 12, 2019 at 6:31 am

      Or even a general name covering post-Brexit too.

  3. Pcar
    April 12, 2019 at 12:28 am

    UK Parliament reduced to talking shop?

    Yes says WikiP

    The Treaty of Lisbon allows national parliaments eight weeks to study legislative proposals made by the European Commission and decide whether to send a reasoned opinion stating why the national parliament considers it to be incompatible with the principle of subsidiarity. National parliaments may vote to have the measure reviewed. If one third (or one quarter, where the proposed EU measure concerns freedom, justice and security) of national parliaments are in favour of a review, the Commission would have to review the measure and if it decides to maintain it, must give a reasoned opinion to the Union legislator as to why it considers the measure to be compatible with subsidiarity.

    Have politicians, Al Beeb and msm told us?

    Of course not, we “wouldn’t understand” – Boeing, Pilots & MCAS?

    Don’t dismiss as “fake news” if it sounds outlandish.

  4. April 12, 2019 at 6:39 am

    You’ll notice that I did not include the url. That was because it was a default WP site, no navigation, no About section, it was anonymous.

    That someone just accepts that blindly is worrying but also that amateur sleuths don’t do their homework.

    Which then means ‘from where’? From Google? Bing? Which questions about it?

    On the other hand, if you have done your HW, which Pcar does, then a nose for things does develop, but part of that nose smells a rat.

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