Council elections post-mortem

The morning after is an exercise in itself, so let’s go through that.

My first reaction, the primary reaction, was to check comments on the blog which might need replying to or which were trapped in the bin.

And here was the first, from esteemed commenter Bill, whose stance is don’t vote, that’ll show ’em:

Our survey sez “No change a WIN for government” That definitely showed THEM.

The thinking behind that was that my urging people to vote to show displeasure has had no effect whatever and I for one am not averse to Bill’s view because all those wards with no alternative candidate resulted in spoiled ballot papers and interestingly – the MSM are free to report that in headlines.  That really is the interesting story here.

Why? Well firstly, to get rid of May – the establishment appear to be thinking her job is done, time to move on to the next phase, but they need grounds at this upcoming combined constituency branch meeting. All such things need to be put on the analysis table, not just one view.

Did it have no effect at all, voting? Well, yes and no:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1122237/local-elections-2019-result-theresa-may-brexit-conservative-labour-liberal-democrat-vote

Local elections 2019: Theresa May HUMILIATED as Conservatives face Brexit BACKLASH. THERESA MAY’s Conservatives are haemorrhaging councillors as the Liberal Democrats and Independent candidates endured a spectacular night in the 2019 local elections.By CLIVE HAMMOND

Why was my first stop The Express? Because, despite the control of that rag changing from Brexit to anti-Brexit, the message of ‘May Out’ is the same, therefore it’s as reliable as any, i.e. not very much … yet it’s my first input this morning because one must start somewhere. [Naturally, one does not bother with the BBC, Guardian, , local rags, all taken over by Them long ago.]

Next stop is the Telegraph which still reflects some true things now and then behind the paywall which excludes most people:

Ok, that seems to confirm that it was worth voting but I’m more inclined to Bill’s view that it didn’t do much, that it left things just as they were in terms of control of our lives and doings. I’m certainly not averse to the Ranty/Bill stance in one sense but against that is cynicism over the ability of the populace to discern what is happening – you’d think you’d not need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows – but maybe you do in most people’s cases.

I’d say we have an impasse between the Bill view and the Roger Helmer view, i.e. to vote Brexit across the paper or not to turn up at all. Both have a legit case in my view, but ‘not voting’ can be interpreted however Them wish, whereas writing things across the paper, though it not be made public, does have an effect if enough people do it. An effect on GCHQ at least.

And that effect? Not in the least to change their ways, because they are on a mission from their god of destruction, but merely to allow Them to gauge the level of discontent, as Macron is doing in France and Maduro in Venezuela.  They’re not going to get that in the least by stay-at-homes.

In the case of us, the disgruntled deplorables, in effect we have just negated each other. I voted Anne Marie because she was the sole alternative and I don’t know the numbers yet, as I’m still writing this at you early morning.

So, another vote comes up for the EU elections and what does that prove? The ‘don’t voters’ and ‘do voters’ are still locked on opposite sides of the argument – friends still but still locked on this question of ‘vote’ or ‘don’t vote’.

Then who knows if there is a GE after that, which is even more theatrical?

By the way, where would I have gone next this morning? Twitter of course, a mix of primary sources and reported, or secondary, sources.

After that? Maybe Breitbart but they’re always late, always behind the action – they’re more for later analysis, as we are here.

Trusted blogs would be my next move, to see if one of us lot have uncovered anything from around the traps.

10 comments for “Council elections post-mortem

  1. May 3, 2019 at 11:38 am

    I’m firmly in the “do vote” camp (where there is an alternative option). You can’t actively vote against a candidate, so the best thing to do is vote positively for an alternative, ANY alternative. The politicians and strategists look very closely at percentages and a large percentage swing away from the mainstream parties TOWARDS AN ALTERNATIVE will send a very big indication to the politicians.

    If no alternative is available, then you have no option to spoil the ballot paper. But spoiling the paper doesn’t change the result, it just means someone gets into power with fewer votes. The least best option, if you like.

    I just wonder how much of that massive swing to “independent” in the results this morning hides a UKIP vote, pending some “clarification” or clerical error later on today. Just so the Liberal party boost can be hyped up as a winning Pro-remain vote, thereby forwarding the establishment agenda in this morning’s news segments. Of course later on today the results and the pro-Brexit agenda will be old news and reports will be quietly shelved…

    That I can think that such a thing is possible or even plausible shows just how toxic politics and the media have become.

    • May 3, 2019 at 4:31 pm

      As I wrote elsewhere – I had a candidate to vote for, an Anne Marie chappy. Otherwise, the only reason I’d have gone would have been to spoil the ballot paper.

    • May 5, 2019 at 7:03 am

      We didn’t have elections, but like you, I can’t bear the thought of NOT voting.

      We go to the polls on 23rd May. That’ll be a headscratcher.

  2. Valentine Gray
    May 3, 2019 at 5:07 pm

    One thing is certain May is a power addict she will not resign,she will stick at being Prime minister like shit sticks to a blanket. Tory and Labour tears of sorrow I love it, hurry up EU elections

    • Pcar
      May 4, 2019 at 12:44 am

      I daily expect to hear that the PM has decided that this month will have a 32nd day, a 33rd day, a 34th day etc, thus ensuring that we shall never be allowed to see the end of May.

  3. Pcar
    May 4, 2019 at 12:41 am

    Vote? C4 News on it’s anti-Con platform showed many spoiled “Brexit” “None of above, Brexit” ballots – C4 anti-Con trumps anti-Brexiit?

    .
    The toppling of Theresa: ]Day 29

    “Treacherous Theresa’s betrayal of her country over Huawei has led to the sacking of one member of the government who’d begun to get his act together in the country’s interests. If you are in any doubt please listen to Lord Dannatt, a former chief of the Defence Staff, interviewed on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme yesterday morning (at 8.19 am). Also read the Telegraph article by Rob Wilson which helps explain why Gavin Williamson, a convert to Brexit, was an infinitely more of a threat to Mrs May -determined to stay in power at all costs – than the in name only Brexiteer, Penny Mordaunt, who has less grasp on the principles at stake. It is all too depressing for words.

    To understand the full enormity of it and the anti-democratic/anti-America/anti-Nato and pro-EU civil service takeover of government under Kim May’s premiership, please read intelligence expert Bruce Newsome’s devastating posts for TCW on this, here and here where he writes in detail about the background to Theresa May’s embrace of Huawei – a scandal that in my book looks likely to eclipse all political scandals before it.

    She can’t hope to go without punishment. It’s started – from the voters. The Tories are suffering heavy losses as the local council election results come in. At the time of writing they are down 1,100 seats…”

    Do note the source: The Conservative Woman
    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/conwoms-culture-war/

    .
    Why May put Huawei before security

    “The Huawei scandal has exposed the executive power now wielded by civil servants and cost the Defence Secretary his job, but don’t let personnel machinations distract you from the scandalous sacrifice of national security, the US special relationship, and Brexit

    The National Security Council seems to be expanding its purview in order to hide public interests from the public, including even Brexit. The British government does not need to hide the debate about 5G. If the British government has evidence of suitability, it should be able to release it. The government isn’t proposing a military deal that deserves secrecy. It’s proposing a civilian telephone infrastructure. If the British government has decided that Huawei offers no risk, why on earth is it hiding this decision in the National Security Council? The whole process smacks of dirty tricks.

    Here is where the Huawei scandal links back to a larger scandal of machinations to favour the EU over the US, to favour macro-economic vanity over national security, to favour authoritarianism over democracy.

    May’s government is sacrificing national security, the special relationship, and Brexit in favour of Chinese money and EU integration.”

    May’s a frustrated socialist civil servant not a Conservative

    Will no one rid us of this turbulent woman?

    • ivan
      May 5, 2019 at 11:45 pm

      @pcar, what are you rambling on about Huawei and the 5G infrastructure for? Is it because the 5i’s don’t have backdoor access to the equipment like they do to the US Cisco equipment, or are you listening to the crying of the US NSA and trade lobbyists?

      You do realise that Germany has told the US to take a running jump regarding Huawei equipment and no one found anything radically wrong with the firmware used in the equipment. So far Huawei is the only company to allow anyone to look at their firmware and control software, no US firm has signed up to allow that apparently for fear of what would be found.

      I do agree with what you say regarding the takeover by civil servants in all departments. They think they actually run the country, maybe they do since there had not been any real direction from the incipid politicians since Mrs Thatcher.

  4. Pcar
    May 4, 2019 at 12:46 am

    Vote? C4 News on it’s anti-Con platform showed many spoiled “Brexit” “None of above, Brexit” ballots – C4 anti-Con trumps anti-Brexiit?

    .
    The toppling of Theresa: ]Day 29

    “Treacherous Theresa’s betrayal of her country over Huawei has led to the sacking of one member of the government who’d begun to get his act together in the country’s interests. If you are in any doubt please listen to Lord Dannatt, a former chief of the Defence Staff, interviewed on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme yesterday morning (at 8.19 am). Also read the Telegraph article by Rob Wilson which helps explain why Gavin Williamson, a convert to Brexit, was an infinitely more of a threat to Mrs May -determined to stay in power at all costs – than the in name only Brexiteer, Penny Mordaunt, who has less grasp on the principles at stake. It is all too depressing for words.

    To understand the full enormity of it and the anti-democratic/anti-America/anti-Nato and pro-EU civil service takeover of government under Kim May’s premiership, please read intelligence expert Bruce Newsome’s devastating posts for TCW on this, here and here where he writes in detail about the background to Theresa May’s embrace of Huawei – a scandal that in my book looks likely to eclipse all political scandals before it.

    She can’t hope to go without punishment. It’s started – from the voters. The Tories are suffering heavy losses as the local council election results come in. At the time of writing they are down 1,100 seats…”

    Do note the source: The Conservative Woman

    .
    Why May put Huawei before security

    “The Huawei scandal has exposed the executive power now wielded by civil servants and cost the Defence Secretary his job, but don’t let personnel machinations distract you from the scandalous sacrifice of national security, the US special relationship, and Brexit

    The National Security Council seems to be expanding its purview in order to hide public interests from the public, including even Brexit. The British government does not need to hide the debate about 5G. If the British government has evidence of suitability, it should be able to release it. The government isn’t proposing a military deal that deserves secrecy. It’s proposing a civilian telephone infrastructure. If the British government has decided that Huawei offers no risk, why on earth is it hiding this decision in the National Security Council? The whole process smacks of dirty tricks.

    Here is where the Huawei scandal links back to a larger scandal of machinations to favour the EU over the US, to favour macro-economic vanity over national security, to favour authoritarianism over democracy.

    May’s government is sacrificing national security, the special relationship, and Brexit in favour of Chinese money and EU integration.”

    May’s a frustrated socialist civil servant not a Conservative

    Will no one rid us of this turbulent woman?

  5. mona
    May 4, 2019 at 7:44 am

    May is a Psychopath, owned by her husband, he is the shadow PM he calls the shots he is a businessman look at the companies he acts for ?. the damage done by her, blessing Sharia, cutting the police numbers when terrorism and stabbers are rising, cutting education funds, millions spent on a hard Brexit she knew couldn’t happen. She has the eyes of a snake and has gait of a vulture,

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