Kalergi and related issues

I’m thinking that Bruce Charlton was referring, not to Javanka in his comments but rather to what I’d posted:

It is NOT tinfoil hat territory, it’s a real plan and it is being implemented:

Bruce and Judd commented, this may be an unusual way to blog but here it is:

  1. Bruce Charlton
    July 22, 2019 at 17:59 (edit)

    Re 2. Perfectly correct. From United Nations Population Division website: https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/ageing/replacement-migration.asp

    “United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.

    “Focusing on these two striking and critical population trends, the report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates. ”

    It’s a chicken and egg kind of thing – Mass (atheistic) leftist nihilism and demoitivation synergising with (demonic) elite leftist aggression.

  2. Judd
    July 22, 2019 at 18:57 (edit)

    Low fertility be buggered, most of us silly natives have the number of children we can afford to bring up decently by our own toil without being a burden on the state…by the state i mean other taxpayers as the govt has no money of its own, despite them p’ing it up the wall like confetti.

    Another chicken and egg quandry is how many normal people, seeing the continued and worsening decline of our country, thanks in no small way to the volumes of replacements already here and their unsavoury or violent customs and practices, have decided they do not wish what is coming upon their own children, so simply don’t have any.

    • July 22, 2019 at 19:32 (edit)

      Now Judd, that is biblical. It does say woe is those with chn in those times. Not many have made this connection yet.

  3. Bruce Charlton
    July 23, 2019 at 08:58 (edit)

    With further reference to 2 – this is a striking example of the supernatural ‘law’ by which, apparently, evil need to tell (or warn) what specifcially it intends to do, before doing it. If not a law, this happens remarkably often – and may be the basis of the stereotypical gloating or monologuing villain in popular culture.

    Of course, the interpretation is dishonest – we are doing it for your own good, for the good of the economy etc; and of course it will not work and will instead cause chaos and collapse – but it is remarkable that there are explicit plans to replace the populations of the developed nations – and at the same time it is taboo to discuss the reasons for, and the cure of, that subfertility which is put forward as the reason for this ‘neccessity’.

    The reason is, in a nutshell, atheism – abandonment of real religion.

    Since the invention of fertility control technologies (including abortion, which is used as such) all secualr societies and groups are seriously subfertile and therefore on course for extinction – partly from the drop in number, partly from the consequent weakness, the increasingly aging population.

    ABout half of native Brits are older than 45 – such societies have never existed in history. By contrast, in some parts of the middle east and africa, more than half the population are children, less than 18. Such societies have never previously existed either! If we count only native Brits, and were to adjudt for the distorted population age structure, the population has been declining probably since the 1970s or 80s, when deaths exceeded births.

    But accurate numbers are impossible because the necessary data is (deliberately) not being collected.

    The dysgenic effect of subfertility are worst (about 1/4 replacement level) among the most intelligent secular women. Extinction is also favoured by accelerated deleterious mutation accumulation with a shrinking population and reduced natural selection (which sometimes leads to ‘mutational meltdown’ and rapid extinction).

    Of course extinction need not be and probably would not be, complete – it just needs to be enough to collapse the system.

    The only groups I know of that are exempt from significant subfertility in developed societies are some of those who live in the most patriarchal and traditional religious groups, among Christians, Muslims and Jews (i.e. ‘monotheists’) who do not use contraception (except for Mormons who do use contraception, and whose average fertility is modestly above replacement, but dropping).

    Liberally or moderately religious and spiritual people are just as subfertile as the atheists.

    I’m not saying that The Answer is to return to traditional religious behaviour; but that at least is a *vital* clue to the cause of the problem.

    • July 23, 2019 at 09:04 (edit)

      Bruce, sorry but am going to steal this and run it at OoL today, unabridged, attributed of course. It says precisely what I’d hoped to.

Thing is – they’re slightly different readerships but often the theme is universal.

11 comments for “Kalergi and related issues

  1. Mark
    July 23, 2019 at 10:40 am

    Just who in the name of fuck, fuck, fuckity fucking fuck do these people think they are!!!!

    The world state exists. They have decided that they are its rulers, the rest of us just need to catch up.

    Replace white and Asian populations who have created civilisations and can manifestly maintain and take them forward with the overspill of third world shiteholes.

    What could possibly go right?

    Why are these third world shiteholes, shiteholes? You can run through the whole gamut of explanations and excuses but sooner or later Occam’s razor raises it unwelcome head. Because, with the best will in the world (if that was actually present) these populations just don’t seem to be able to maintain a technological civilisation. Sorry, but they can’t.

    We could use that proportion of the third world who do have the smarts of course, but isn’t that just “exploitation”?

    Jordan Peterson asks the serious question as to what western nations do about the seventh or so of their populations who don’t have the smarts to function in the society we have (I know how this makes me sound, but what DO we do? I don’t know, does anybody?).

    If you actually want to import tens, hundreds of millions who, never mind the IQ, simply reject the basics of western culture, please explain why. I’d like to know (it’s got nothing to do with demographics)

    • Valentine Gray
      July 23, 2019 at 9:26 pm

      WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE ?? Pygmies are people so are Zulus, Cannibals from New Guinea etc. Some people think they are Gods chosen people ( I prefer to think they chose themselves) evolution has not stopped, right now there people evolving right now into a super species right here in plain sight,, I would refer you to an important essay by Rabbi Max Reichler ” JEWISH EUGENICS” written in New York in 1916, it is very interesting using the concept of a God a chosen people and biological rules which appear to work, although from time to time it has had horrible repercussions but now they seem to have a home run, Just ask Trump.

  2. john in cheshire
    July 23, 2019 at 4:44 pm

    I believe that if our country hadn’t been murdering babies with abortion policies for the past 50 or so years, we wouldn’t have had any need ( if a need we actually have) for imported hordes.

    This in itself tells me that the whole operation had been planned.

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  4. Bruce Charlton
    July 24, 2019 at 8:22 am

    Wish I’d spent a bit more time proofreading my comments…

  5. July 24, 2019 at 9:26 am

    As always, the only ideology in play is money. It’s always about the money.

    With a declining population big corporations lose consumers. Shareholders require bigger profits and dividends year on year.

    Corporations look at the declining population and understand that means reduced profits.

    So what do they do? Create an atmosphere that permits mass immigration, especially of high-birthrate communities. As long as the immigrants buy products, that’s all good, the balance is restored and profits can continue to rise. They’re not illegals, they’re not Muslims, they’re not extremists…. they’re consumers.

    I love that the far-left (Corbynites in the UK and the squad in the USA) think that they’re so anti-capitalist and leftist, when actually by pushing mass immigration and open borders they’re working for the big corporations.

    I used to wonder how governments could continue to import a community and ideology that would effectively wipe them out. Then I came to realise, it’s not governments: it’s those that control and influence governments; the monied elite that are pushing this strategy.

    Climate, immigration, it’s all about the money baby…

    I’m still trying to understand where the war on plastic fits into the money-making strategy. I suspect it’s to do with third-world countries refusing to deal with our trash for peanuts and affecting the bottom line… So back to recyclables. Useless paper straws, stinky terry nappies and mooncups.

    Then maybe in 30 year’s time when we have plastic-less solutions and have forgotten about the ease and practicality plastic-based products brought us, we’ll get a whole new set of consumables to make money off.

    • Luther Burgsvik
      July 25, 2019 at 3:48 pm

      If it were all about money then the elites would want more white people in Europe and elsewhere because white people, as a whole, have a higher GDP and are more creative than Africans. Filling the continent with people who generate less money and are less creative is the last thing they would want to do if they were only concerned with money. Money isn’t their prime motivation.

      • July 25, 2019 at 4:55 pm

        It’s interbreeding, of course it is.

      • July 26, 2019 at 2:39 pm

        It’s definitely all about the money. For instance you could in theory start to sell to the people in Africa in order to expand sales. The problem with that is there is no infrastructure through which to distribute your product. So you have to spend a whole lot of money building roads in order to sell stuff, which comes off the bottom line.

        Instead you import the consumers to an area that already has infrastructure in place: The West. On the way you can make a few quid by trafficking people across borders.

        The Chinese have a different view, hence their “belt and road” ideology where they trade infrastructure for mineral rights. Eventually the infrastructure will be in place but the mineral rights will virtually pay for the expenditure. Eventually the Chinese will have the infrastructure in place to be able to sell product direct to the Africans and will have locked out access to resources without having to import immigrants and dilute their culture. There are so many positives to the long game the Chinese are playing, but the West can’t do it. We seem fixated on short-term gain, year-on-year returns on investment.

        I do see conflict happening in the future when the West wants to exploit the Chinese-built infrastructure for their own ends. By then the Chinese will have a very firm foothold and effective control of large areas of Africa, locking the West out.

        Instead we chuck the Africans that stay in their homeland a few bags of rice and expect them to be grateful.

  6. July 28, 2019 at 1:05 am

    Although I’m fluent in German (I grew up there), it always bothered me that Practical Idealism wasn’t published in English and I could only find that one famous paragraph about race mixing quoted on the internet! It took me six weeks, but I was able to translate the manuscript in its entirety, and get it published by Omnia Veritas, Ltd. If anyone is interested to read it, it contains many more shocking and what I consider truly crazy ideas by Coudenhove-Kalergi. Here it is:


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