Live blog on today’s doings

More a forum than a post, some initial thoughts on Boris’s proposal, will be added to as people comment:

Thu, 10:16

‪As Roger Helmer asked, “Fisheries? Defence? £39 billion?”‬


My conclusion is that nothing has been changed from the WA2, bar some alterations to the Irish question. Everything else as bad as it was.


# Nigel: Nothing would please the Irish Government, not even a white flag.


# Nigel Farage: Boris only wants to change one part of the Withdrawal Agreement. Despite his words, there is no guarantee that we will leave the customs union, and any future trade deal needs good faith from the EU side. It’s like putting your head in a crocodile’s mouth & hoping for the best.


# Slough and District Politics: BBC Radio 4 news reporting that parliament will be prorogued next Tuesday – the day before the next remainer ploy was to be played out.


# Roger Helmer: Fisheries? Defence? £39 billion? NI locked into Single Market rules until 2025? Time to recognise that a clean-break Brexit would be far better than this mish-mash.


# Hugh Devlin: My question is will Northern Ireland be able to do deals outside the EU & around the world like the UK will be able to do?


# Stop the EU: This deal Boris has proposed is as good as it’ll get and if it’s good with the DUP then it’s good for me. But ultimately it’ll be rejected tho.

# David Jones: It is obvious what will happen. The EU will reject Boris’s proposals because remainer MPs have passed a law to block no deal. The EU will then demand another extension which remainer MPs will accept & Brexit will be delayed. The EU is our enemy, they don’t want to let us Brexit.

# The Wail: The new plan is outlined in a 40-page document presented to senior EU officials in Brussels by Mr Frost, the PM’s chief Brexit adviser, this afternoon.

The plan would scrap the controversial Irish backstop altogether.

Instead, Northern Ireland would remain in the single market for all goods, meaning it would have to continue to follow a swathe of EU regulations. However, the Province will leave the EU customs union, meaning there would be no tariffs on goods trade with the UK.

However, the deal would involve customs checks on goods travelling between Northern Ireland and the Republic – an idea that has been a red line for both Brussels and Dublin until now.

And the Northern Ireland Assembly would have to give its consent on a rolling four-year basis, starting next summer. The assembly has not sat for two and a half years, and sources acknowledged that another method might have to be found to secure consent, possibly even including a referendum.

Ministers are also drawing up plans for a ‘New Deal for Northern Ireland’, which could provide billions in extra funding for the Province.

The DUP said: ‘This offer provides a basis for the EU to continue in a serious and sustained engagement with the UK Government without risk to the internal market of the United Kingdom.

‘It will require changes to the draft withdrawal treaty and we welcome the fact that all sides now recognise that requirement in order to secure agreement.

‘These proposals would ensure that Northern Ireland would be out of the EU Customs Union and the Single Market as with the rest of the United Kingdom.’

6 comments for “Live blog on today’s doings

  1. October 3, 2019 at 2:37 am

    Well, that went down well.

  2. Pcar
    October 3, 2019 at 2:46 am


    All we have so far are words, not text.

    However, as I feared it sounds like May’s EU Surrender Treaty minus NI backstop

    Your quote:
    “# Roger Helmer: Fisheries? Defence? £39 billion? NI locked into Single Market rules until 2025? Time to recognise that a clean-break Brexit would be far better than this mish-mash.”

    Seems apposite

    I want No Deal clean exit as does Mrs Pcar (Swedish). Chatted to mum (79) earlier – same; brother same….

    That’s all I’m saying until I see text.


    Sir John Redwood MP – Speech to The Bruges Group at Conservative Conference 2019

    Boris Johnson’s speech to Conservative Party Conference

    • October 3, 2019 at 10:19 am

      See someone close to him has put oit a rumour that he has a ‘secret plan’ to be out in 28 days.

      Really sick to death of this.

  3. Valentine Gray
    October 3, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    I can no longer watch the news, read the news, Brexit along with the vision of Bercow is giving me the screaming Ab-Dabs, I’m off to Gateway Pundit.

  4. Pcar
    October 7, 2019 at 12:51 am

    Brexit – Johnson documents

    Andrew Marr Show October 6, 2019
    Andrew Marr is joined by Brexit secretary Stephen Barclay MP, shadow attorney general Baroness Shami Chakrabarti and Arturs Krišjānis Kariņš, Prime Minister of Latvia.

  5. Pcar
    October 7, 2019 at 12:54 am

    Weekend Humour

    European Union’s sales pitch
    inc Lisbon Treaty 2020 Takeover which Pols & MSM hide – like UN Migrant Compact

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