Just who runs this country?

While there are real concerns over Boris and his faux Brexit and that stupid “bong-gate”, what cannot be denied is that according to the electoral system of this land, the govt has every right, with a majority of around 80, to see its policies implemented.

Genuine conservatives/nationalists/populists might rail at Boris’s subterfuge but not at the mandate he’s been given to implement what the majority of those who voted perceive as “Brexit”. He has every right to have this govt’s programme implemented.

And so we come to this:


The government has lost three votes in the Lords over its Brexit legislation – its first defeats since the election.

The Lords has no mandate to create new legislation, it is a house of review which recommends.  This is why it goes back to the lower house, it can be ignored and sent back up again in its original form.

Eventually, with a working majority in the lower house, the Bill becomes an Act.

This is not how the Lords are operating, not in the least. They are acting to stymie and delay anything Brexit based, which is out of order.

I wrote a post around 2007 supporting the Lords. That was before its wrecking by Blair had become fully apparent. It now represents a view of neither the govt nor the community.

Should the Lords go? How should this be achieved?

4 comments for “Just who runs this country?

  1. Timbotoo
    January 21, 2020 at 3:16 am

    Stuff the Lords full of brexiteers until there is a working majority.

  2. James Strong
    January 21, 2020 at 6:14 am

    Of course the Lords should go.
    A significant proportion of its members are there after being rejected by the voters.
    Another significant number are there as a reward for loyalty. This is a sort of forward bribe to current members of the Commons – ‘See what you can look forward to if you don’t rebel and keep toeing the line.’
    And some are there, like Lord Barwell, having failed in non-elected political roles.

    None of that is justifiable in a democracy.

    As for how to select members of the second chamber : I suggest using a similar system as selection for jury service. 500 members, each serving for 5 years, with 100 standing down and being replaced each year.

    Provide reasonable accommodation near the site of the chamber, Premier Inn standard would be fine. Provide rail tickets home every weekend.
    Set the allowances so that members of the second chamber neither lose out nor get rich during their period of service.
    After 5 years service they are then excused further service for 15 or 20 years, but then their name might come up again in the random selection.

    • James Strong
      January 21, 2020 at 6:27 am

      Powers of such a second chamber?

      To receive Bills from the Commons and send them back with comments/observations for the Commons to consider.
      Powers of delay – 6 months, or a year, (someone else can work out the details) with the Commons having over-ride powers by means of a Special Resolution.

      • January 21, 2020 at 6:52 am

        Commons already does – it can send it back two more times.

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