Origin of Coronavirus?

One can’t do everything and admittedly, I’m lagging behind everyone else on this story, I just don’t know, so let me present these two [you may have already had all your serious discussions about it all]:



From Leggy’s article:

My first thought on reading that was ‘Huh?’ Every other respiratory virus and bacterium does this. Why would they ever think this one wouldn’t? Of course it bloody does.

It’s why I thought the drivers on those buses were taking a great risk and why I was astounded that the case-on-a-plane prompted them to only look for the nearby-seated passengers. Of course it spreads in aerosols. Why wouldn’t it? And even if it was later found not to, why would you not assume that it could (since pretty much everything else does) and take appropriate precautions?

It’s not so much the virus that’s dangerous here, it’s the slapdash approach to it and the ridiculous coverups to quell public fears. Look, you need to be afraid of it, you need to avoid it or it becomes endemic.

However, this isn’t meant to be a scare story even though that’s pretty much what I do.

It will spread through aerosols, yes. Someone who shows no symptoms and who has no idea they are infected could spread it all over an auditorium. However…

It’s an RNA virus. Not a retrovirus like HIV. It doesn’t convert its RNA into DNA and hide in your cells for decades before emerging with an ‘Ah-ha! Gotcha!’. Its genetic code is RNA which is not as stable as DNA. It’s very susceptible to drying out and to UV light in particular. It’s also killed by bleach but then so is everything else, including you. So don’t try bleaching yourself.

I’m quite sure that was a piece of sane writing and he probably has it right. However, that does not alter this next one, sensationalist as the Indians can often be, yet maybe this is what Them are trying to do or at least those freelancing and being paid by them or whichever configuration of bastardry it is. You need to get past the sensationalism and get to the things which can be substantiated:

On June 13, 2012 a 60-year-old Saudi man was admitted to a private hospital in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, with a 7-day history of fever, cough, expectoration, and shortness of breath. He had no history of cardiopulmonary or renal disease, was receiving no long-term medications, and did not smoke.

Egyptian virologist Dr. Ali Mohamed Zaki isolated and identified a previously unknown coronavirus from his lungs. After routine diagnostics failed to identify the causative agent, Zaki contacted Ron Fouchier, a leading virologist at the Erasmus Medical Center (EMC) in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, for advice.

This Coronavirus sample was acquired by Scientific Director Dr. Frank Plummer (key to Coronavirus investigation Frank Plummer was recently assassinated in Africa) of Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) in Winnipeg directly from Fouchier, who received it from Zaki. This virus was reportedly stolen from the Canadian lab by Chinese agents.

Food for thought eh?

3 comments for “Origin of Coronavirus?

  1. February 11, 2020 at 1:03 pm

    I’ve already blogged about the scary nature of NCoV (as I’ve handily monikered it).
    There are several issues regarding the medical and governmental advice around the virus. It seems the official advice is lagging way behind the curve the more we find out about the virus.

    The inability to contain NCoV that infects without symptoms, the fact that NCoV infects over an incubation period now extending out to possibly 24 days, the fact that NCoV is transferring via air including via the eyes, the fact that it appears highly contagious (way more that the “official” infection rating), the fact that it appears to be fairly robust so it survives for a time outside the body or after death (and the probable reason China are now burning bodies). Finally the fact that you get no immunity after having the virus and it kills a small number of people during each cycle (possibly repeating infection cycles until there are no hosts left to infect).

    All of this scares the bejeezuz out of me. Not because it has new and novel ways to spread, but the fact that government health advice is so behind the curve on this and the virus is being given the opportunity to spread. The information coming out of China is woefully inadequate and in some cases misleading.

    Where is the UK government on notifying ALL passengers that took that EasyJet flight back from France to contact the NHS? Where is the advice for those passengers to immediately go into voluntary isolation and to inform anyone they may have come in contact with to do the same?

    Where is the advice for those visiting the doctor’s surgery in Brighton, or attending the school in Southampton? What is it that links both and what other links are there to the “super-spreader” that brought the virus from Singapore. What is the super-spreader’s identity so we can make sure we haven’t served him in a shop, or had other contact with him?

    How many other virus carriers are there that attended the same conference that flew back to the UK?

    So many questions unanswered. So much advice not given out.

    Right now, the best Official advice is to wash your hands. Seriously?

    Those advising prepping/stocking up on food have a point, but only if they can hibernate for a number of months without making contact with anyone else. Lie low until the virus has gone through enough cycles to reduce the population so the risk of contact is low. If not, now the virus is out in the wild around the world, there only seems to be the certainty that there will be a lot more cases here.

    If I were an isolated infection-free country like Iceland, I’d be banning all inbound travel and pulling up the shutters until the pandemic is over.

  2. Valentine Gray
    February 11, 2020 at 7:15 pm

    “Mother Nature Strikes Back”having seen gut wrenching images of beautiful dogs being put into boiling water still alive and many of them with their limbs hacked off the Chinese seem to eat anything, I would not put it past them to indulge in human flesh, they disgust me

  3. Ed P
    February 13, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    Infections in the UK will inevitably increase in the next few weeks, as the official advice is appallingly inadequate:
    People who might have been in close contact with infected people were allowed home after only 14 days (with the incubation period now thought to be up to 24 days).
    It’s now thought the virus will stay active for up to one week on surfaces – handrails, door handles, etc.
    Drivers on those four “Horseman” coaches had no protection and have continued to work (& thus be in contact with 100s of passengers).
    So don’t touch anything, don’t breathe in aerosol droplets hanging in the air from someone’s sneeze minutes ago, don’t kiss (even on the cheek), etc., etc.
    Who wants to be inside a train or tube, or work in an open-plan office, or fly anywhere right now?

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